Lynn KJ4ERJ wrote...

> The T2 RETRIES occurs for EACH retransmission of the Nuvi. I don't
> recall exactly how many of those there are, but that's probably where
> 6*4 (or whatever it is) came from.

I assume you meant "the T2 retries occur for each message". Yes, if
Adrian had RETRIES set for 6 and sent 4 messages, there would be
6 * 4 transmissions as a result. My comments were for the information
he quoted from aprs.fi. Not every one of Adrian's transmissions would
have necessarily made it to an IGate.

Note to Adrian... look in the Nuvi's outbox. If you have messages
"stuck" there because they didn't get an ACK, delete them. With RETRIES
set to 6, the T2 will retry each one 6 times for each time the Nuvi
sends it to the T2. Maybe that's why I was seeing multiple {message
identifiers for an otherwise identical message... or did you actually
send the same message multiple times?

Looking at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=KD5HTZ-9&limit=1000

2009-07-15 04:08:05 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test{aa
2009-07-15 04:08:44 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test{aa
2009-07-15 04:12:04 UTC: :K5MTS :test again{ac
2009-07-15 04:13:11 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test2{ad
2009-07-15 04:17:58 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test4{af
2009-07-15 04:24:25 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :this is a final test{ag
2009-07-15 04:32:55 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :testing again{ah
2009-07-15 04:33:42 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :testing again{ah
2009-07-15 04:51:05 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test5{aa
2009-07-15 04:52:23 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test5{aa
2009-07-15 04:57:42 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test 6{aa
2009-07-15 04:58:29 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test 6{aa
2009-07-15 05:24:57 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test{ab
2009-07-15 05:25:51 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test{ab
2009-07-15 05:30:26 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :testing again{ac
2009-07-15 05:31:14 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :testing again{ac
2009-07-15 05:32:20 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :testing again{ac
2009-07-16 01:13:50 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test 10{ad
2009-07-16 01:14:44 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test 10{ad
2009-07-16 01:45:44 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{af
2009-07-16 01:45:58 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ag
2009-07-16 01:47:07 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ag
2009-07-16 01:47:42 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ag
2009-07-16 01:47:59 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ah
2009-07-16 01:48:41 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ah
2009-07-16 01:49:58 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ai
2009-07-16 01:50:37 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ai
2009-07-16 01:51:13 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ai
2009-07-16 01:51:44 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ai
2009-07-16 01:52:35 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{aj
2009-07-16 01:53:07 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{aj
2009-07-16 01:53:43 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{aj
2009-07-16 01:53:46 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ak
2009-07-16 01:55:04 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ak
2009-07-16 01:55:40 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{ak
2009-07-16 01:55:47 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{al
2009-07-16 01:57:05 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{al
2009-07-16 01:57:49 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{am
2009-07-16 01:59:06 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{am
2009-07-16 01:59:43 UTC: :KD5HTZ-9 :test nuvl{am

Keeping in mind that these are just the messages tries that made it to
an IGate... the message containing "test" with a message identifier of
{aa shows up 6 times; message identifier {ab shows up twice; message
identifier {ac (testing again) shows up 4 times; {ad (test 10) shows up
3 times; message identifier {af (test 4) shows up just once, but there
is another message identifier {af (with a different message... test
nuvi1) that shows up just once. Then there a whole bunch of messages
containing the text "test nuv1" with various message identifiers... {af,
{ag, {ah, {ai, {aj, {ak, {al, and {am. I don't know if Adrian entered
the message "test nuv1" a whole bunch of times or if the Nuvi sent it
multiple times to the T2 but perhaps didn't get an appropriate response
from the T2.

Scott... does the Nuvi blindly send a message to the T2 just once, or
does it "know" when the T2 has got the message from the Nuvi?

Adrian, it would appear that you aren't being heard by an IGate every
time. This is actually normal. When you send a beacon or send a message,
there's no guarantee that every transmission will be digipeated or that
it will make it to an IGate either direct or via a digi. If you were,
each message would show up there 6 times (with RETRIES set to 6) unless
you actually heard the ACK coming back from a digi. If you wanted to run
a test for a few hours, you could set the T2 to beacon every 10 minutes
with the time stamp enabled, and some hours later, look at aprs.fi and
see how many beacons were heard and how many were missed.

Your Nuvi / T2 is obviously capable of sending messages. I believe your
original message was about whether your T2 was sending ACKs to messages
that you had received. It would be really helpful if a friend nearby
could watch on RF and just confirm that they saw you sending ACKS... or
we knew when your T2 was active, I or someone else could try sending you
a message to see if I received an ACK. This would also show up on
aprs.fi if you made it to an IGate. This is dependent on your local
IGate being correctly configured to send messages to local stations. You
could take that uncertainty out of the equation by getting a local RF
station to do the tests with you.

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

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