Fred N7FMH wrote...

> I was referring to the RF path as opposed to the setting in a TNC...

I'm not sure that I understand that, but it probably doesn't matter.

> I didn't realize a WIDEn-N would respond the the WIDE1-1 in that
> manner.

That is an important part of how WIDEn-N digis work. If they didn't
respond to WIDE1-1, and the mobile station didn't hit a fill-in digi,
their beacon wouldn't be digipeated at all.

> The intent here is only to get the low power, low antenna HT signal
> out. For testing, I actually buried the HT low in the car with the
> hopes that only the car system would hear it and forward it. I was
> looking to test the WIDE1-1 capability.

In that case, I would set a path of N7FMH-9,WIDE2-2 in the HT, sorta
like Michael's suggestion. You would have to have DIGI ON in the T2 for
this to work.

> But if the only RF path is through two WIDE1-1 digipeaters, how do you
> accomplish that?

This would / should never happen. Think of the havoc if you had more
than one WIDE1-1 anywhere in your path. The purpose of a fill-in WIDE1-1
digi is to help get you go a high WIDEn-N digi. If you attempted to get
through two fill-in digis by using a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE1-1 (evil) you
would sometimes be hitting a WIDEn-N digi direct, and it would be
triggering every fill-in digi out to the horizon as well as the WIDEn-N
digis around it. If WIDE1-1,WIDE1-1 is evil, just think how much worse
it would be if a few more were thrown in!!!

> Normally one would not use WIDE1-2,WIDE2-1 for the stupid/abusive
> reasoning, but would that get through two WIDE1-1 digipeaters? For
> testing around my home, that might be the answer, but certainly not
> long term.

Again one should NEVER use WIDE1-2. The WIDE2-1 is easy. Only a WIDEn-N
digi (or one that specifically had an alias of WIDE2-1) would respond to
it. The question comes down to the WIDE1-2. I presume that a fill-in
digi would respond to it and kick it out the other side as WIDE1-1 still
available, but so would a WIDEn-N digi.

> For the WIDE1-1, they are now:
> USEALIAS 1:ON
> ALIAS 1:WIDE1
> HOPLIMIT 1:1
> DIGIID 1:ON
> DUPETIME 30

That all looks OK for a fill-in digi.

> I thought it would be interesting to collect data from a 'timed'
> tracked and overlay it on a SmartBeaconing track. By doing a WIDE1-1,
> it keeps the output signal basically the same since the big power
> transmitter (!40W) gets used almost every time. Again the HT is buried
> in the car to force the WIDE1-1.

I don't think it would really prove a lot. The HT (going through the T2)
would be basically a 40W tracker with fixed timing.

> I also want to run different SmartBeaconing profiles over the same
> tracks for comparison. I actually found that in this area it really
> doesn't matter what the high speed rate is unless it is really short.
> There are enough turns to initiate a beacon that the high speed timer
> almost never is reached. In Iowa, it would be an entirely different
> story! Eventually I would like to overlay a track made with
> proportional pathing as well. I don't have anything to do that though
> unless I borrow a VX8 ( I think they will do it). The data collected
> should make for an interesting visual for comparing different methods
> to control beacon timing.

Different SmartBeaconing profiles? I suppose you could vary the slow /
fast speeds and the slow / fast timing, but SmartBeaconing takes care of
itself. Decide on a slow speed and a slow rate. Decide on a fast speed
(usually your fastest highway speed) and a fast rate... i.e. decide on a
fast rate of 1 to 3 minutes or so. I use 1 minute, but I can't drive
more than a couple of minutes at my fast rate at any given time because
there are very few straight roads here (an island) and most the 80 kmh
sections are pretty short. For someone that did lots of commuting near a
large city (APRS frequency busy) or lots of cross-country trips, I would
recommend more like 2-3 (or even 5) minutes for the fast rate. Corner
pegging will take care of the rest.

> From PNRDVL to just east of W1CNH-5 in the circular mountain range. It
> is a really old extinct volcano I believe.

I'll be watching! Good luck with the experimenting.

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

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