--- In [email protected], James Ewen <ve6...@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Broncus<fmhillho...@...> wrote:
> 
> >> If you use a path such as WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR and have your vehicle
> >> set to preemptive digipeat on MYCAR, it will be handled by the car,
> >> but will look like this after. WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR* where the
> >> asterisk (*) represents the has been digipeated bit. Any subsequent
> >> digipeater fill-in or mountaintop will only look for a path that is
> >> after the has been digipeated bit.
> >
> > I don't quite get this. But I think you are saying, the car would see
> > the MYCAR (fromthe HT) and forward the beacon with the
> > WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 intact which a fill-in or WIDE digi would see
> > and treat it like it came direct.
> 
> No, exactly the opposite. The outgoing path in a packet HAS to be used
> in the order it is listed. Using WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 means that WIDE1-1
> has to be used before WIDE2-1. WIDE1-1 is supported in home fill-in
> digipeaters, as well as the main WIDE area digipeaters, so any
> digipeater will respond to that path. Once WIDE1-1 is used (and marked
> with the has-been-digipeated bit which sometimes is shown as the call
> of the digipeater followed by an asterisk "*"), then only a WIDE area
> digipeater will act upon the WIDE2-1.
> 
> If you use a named path such as PNDRVL,WIDE2-1, and you are not heard
> by PNRDVL first, you will not get digipeated by anyone else.
> 
> With preemptive digipeating, (which is only supported by Scott's OT2
> as far as I know), it will scan all of the aliases in the outgoing
> path, and if it finds an alias which it is configured to act upon in a
> preemptive manner, it will use that alias up. So if the path is as
> above, WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR, and you have the OT2 set to act
> preemptively upon MYCAR, then the OT2 would be able to digipeat the
> packet even if the packet was heard directly, and neither the WIDE1-1,
> nor the WIDE2-1 had been used up already.
> 
> If the MYCAR alias is acted upon, the packet would end up looking like
> it had been completely used up even though it hadn't been acted upon
> by a fill-in nor a WIDE area digipeater.
> 
> It's a little bit of a strange concept. It was based on the idea of
> having a fully mobile self deployed network in support of a Search And
> Rescue event. Each SAR team would carry an OT2 set up as a preemptive
> digipeater set to act upon the SARn-N alias.
> 
> Each SAR package would use an outgoing path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SAR7-7.
> This would allow those heard by the regular APRS-RF network to be
> digipeated normally. If however the SAR teams ended up in an area with
> no APRS infrastructure in place, the teams would become their own self
> deploying, self digipeating network, which would hopefully be able to
> get tracking information back to the search HQ.
> 
> Even in an area of digipeater coverage, the SAR network would digipeat
> itself. There would be no flooding effect to the local network as the
> SAR alias is not regularly supported by the main digipeaters.
> 
> Make any sense?
> 
> James
> VE6SRV
>

Thanks for the explanation. I think understand it but I will have to read this 
again after the trip and try it out to know for sure.

Time for some vacation!

Best regards,
Fred

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