On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Broncus<[email protected]> wrote:

>> If you use a path such as WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR and have your vehicle
>> set to preemptive digipeat on MYCAR, it will be handled by the car,
>> but will look like this after. WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR* where the
>> asterisk (*) represents the has been digipeated bit. Any subsequent
>> digipeater fill-in or mountaintop will only look for a path that is
>> after the has been digipeated bit.
>
> I don't quite get this. But I think you are saying, the car would see
> the MYCAR (fromthe HT) and forward the beacon with the
> WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 intact which a fill-in or WIDE digi would see
> and treat it like it came direct.

No, exactly the opposite. The outgoing path in a packet HAS to be used
in the order it is listed. Using WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 means that WIDE1-1
has to be used before WIDE2-1. WIDE1-1 is supported in home fill-in
digipeaters, as well as the main WIDE area digipeaters, so any
digipeater will respond to that path. Once WIDE1-1 is used (and marked
with the has-been-digipeated bit which sometimes is shown as the call
of the digipeater followed by an asterisk "*"), then only a WIDE area
digipeater will act upon the WIDE2-1.

If you use a named path such as PNDRVL,WIDE2-1, and you are not heard
by PNRDVL first, you will not get digipeated by anyone else.

With preemptive digipeating, (which is only supported by Scott's OT2
as far as I know), it will scan all of the aliases in the outgoing
path, and if it finds an alias which it is configured to act upon in a
preemptive manner, it will use that alias up. So if the path is as
above, WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,MYCAR, and you have the OT2 set to act
preemptively upon MYCAR, then the OT2 would be able to digipeat the
packet even if the packet was heard directly, and neither the WIDE1-1,
nor the WIDE2-1 had been used up already.

If the MYCAR alias is acted upon, the packet would end up looking like
it had been completely used up even though it hadn't been acted upon
by a fill-in nor a WIDE area digipeater.

It's a little bit of a strange concept. It was based on the idea of
having a fully mobile self deployed network in support of a Search And
Rescue event. Each SAR team would carry an OT2 set up as a preemptive
digipeater set to act upon the SARn-N alias.

Each SAR package would use an outgoing path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SAR7-7.
This would allow those heard by the regular APRS-RF network to be
digipeated normally. If however the SAR teams ended up in an area with
no APRS infrastructure in place, the teams would become their own self
deploying, self digipeating network, which would hopefully be able to
get tracking information back to the search HQ.

Even in an area of digipeater coverage, the SAR network would digipeat
itself. There would be no flooding effect to the local network as the
SAR alias is not regularly supported by the main digipeaters.

Make any sense?

James
VE6SRV

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