On Vr, 2006-11-17 at 11:22 +0200, F Wolff wrote:
> On Do, 2006-11-16 at 21:59 -0200, Leonardo Fontenelle wrote:
> > Enough about the ebuild, now I'm trying to learn Pootle administration.
> > 
> > This Saturday the Brazilian GNOME translators will meet the Brazilian
> > Ubuntu ones to discuss some way of working together. Other pt_BR team
> > leaders were also invited, but we are not sure about how many will be
> > able to show up. I guess Poote may be mentioned, and AFAICT I'm closer
> > to Pootle than any other Brazilian localizer. I happens that I have
> > very scarse Pootle knowledge, so I'll ask a question or two to be able
> > to provide better information for my compatriots.
> 
> Great to hear about this.  I'm not sure what 

Well, now I'm not so sure what I wanted to say here ;=(  Perhaps just
that I'm not sure how easy it is to cooperate while some people are
using Rosetta, but I will leave that to you to discuss :-)

As for Brazilians with Pootle knowledge, I know of at least Felipe
Augusto van de Wiel that has set up an experimental server for Debian.
Hopefully you can represent us well there :-)  As always, feel free to
ask if there are issues that need to be discussed.  Some of us might be
in #pootle tomorrow if an interactive session is preferred.

> 
> > 
> > What puzzles me most is CVS and SVN integration. I played with my
> > local Pootle 0.10.1 server, and couldn't find commands to download
> > from or upload to CVS or SVN. I'd like to know how does CVS/SVN
> > integration works, and how much. I remember someone mentioned using a
> > shell script to update the PO files; could someone send me any of such
> > scripts?

See the comments on the wiki page.  You can only update from shell
scripts if you have a guarantee that no conflicts will occur in the
merge. It is safe to commit automatically from scripts if you have a
guarantee that no-one else will commit from outside Pootle. Otherwise
you always need some extra way of taking care of the possibility of
conflicts.

> > 
> > I don't know how to use OOo integration, but hearing from Clytie
> > Siddall makes me confident it is working well. How about GNOME and
> > Mozilla (Firefox)?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > Leonardo Fontenelle

All projects using gettext natively are reasonably easy. OpenOffice.org
and the Mozilla projects work differently and require more effort.  The
bulk of the stuff that are necessary for these projects (outside of the
normal Pootle functionality) is provided by the translate toolkit.
Because the conversion is quite a task (it takes quite a bit of time),
we don't recommend that this is done from inside Pootle.  It is probably
better done by an automatic script running at low priority that uses the
toolkit commands.  The toolkit is well documented on the wiki and the
translate-devel list is where most toolkit users meet.  On our Pootle
server we want to generate the OpenOffice.org SDF files periodically
with a script.

This does not address the issues of getting your translations into these
projects' CVS repositories or submitting the bugs or their QA, etc.,
naturally.


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