Jack,
 
 I suppose there are, in fact, no truly absolute unearthed circuits given such 
 parameters as the earth's magnetic fields, numerous parasitic capacitances and 
 atmospheric conditions. ;-)  However, within certain defined specific 
 conditions (e.g., isolation voltage, spacings, insulation resistance, etc.), 
 isolation would then exist and then a circuit would then become unearthed if 
 that circuit is not physically connected to earth.
 
 Your suggestion for using capacitors might be valid, but only at F=0 (DC).
 
 IMO, a circuit is considered connected to earth via a capacitor because 
 capacitors have impedance of 1/(2*pi*F*C) [remember your basic circuits 
 classes]. And, when was the last truly DC circuit you observed?
 
 This is why DC hipot testing is recommended for circuits with capacitors 
across 
 tested barriers (see note 2 of 5.3.2 of IEC60950). Leakage current 
requirements 
 of 5.2 of IEC60950 might also need to be considered when using such 
capacitors, 
 although SELV voltages would likely not present a safety concern.
 
 As for optos and relays, they offer AC and DC electrical isolation/separation 
 from their primary to secondary circuits up to certain specified voltages 
(most 
 transformers also apply here, too) and therefore, offer unearthed connections.
 
 These are reasons why I feel that capacitors should not be considered as 
 offering unearthed connections.
 
 Well, so much for my temporal soapbox. And of course, comments are invited.
 
 Best regards,
 Ron Pickard
 [email protected]


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Subject: RE: protective earth  
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Date:    7/14/98 2:05 PM


>From another angle:
 
When is a circuit considered NOT connected to earth ground?  In other 
words, if the only connections to earth in a SELV circuit are through 
isolating components such as 3kV capacitors (from point B to PE in the 
drawing), is that circuit considered unearthed?  I understand that a 
circuit isolated from protective earth by optos and relays is considered 
unearthed.
 
Thanks,
 
Jack
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