A simple question for the heavy discussion. How much music do u listen in a
day? A week?

I have some stuff too, listened when I had transferred new, not much now. A
little here and there. Use it for my kid.

 

Vishal

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jeffrey Kaplan
Sent: 22 November 2007 12:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Treo] Using my Treo as a portable player

 

Hello, Craig Froehle.

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:49:15 -0500 you said:

> On Nov 21, 2007 11:00 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:yahoo%40gordol.org> > wrote:
> > I have about 17 gigabytes of music that I take with me, on random play.
> > Drag'n'drop management isn't a viable option until I can fit all of my
> > music on a card.
> 
> I don't understand that statement...below you imply that that 17GB is
> already a subset of a larger collection. So...why not create a subset
> of that subset? If you can manage the 17GB manually, then a subset
> should be even easier to handle, no?

Because that 17G subset IS the subset I want with me. I don't
understand why you don't understand.

I have X number of CDs. From which I have X-N=Y amount of music in
digital form on my computer. From there, I have Y-n=Za in one
collection, which is mirrored onto my portable media player. The idea
here is to replace the portable media player with my Treo, so I can
converge an additional device away.

> > And even then, it's not so good because that means
> > double maintenance - if/when I remove something from the collection,
> > I'd have to remove it from two locations manually.
> 
> "Remove"? Why are you removing items? Why not just copy? I'm really
> not understanding what you do (or prefer to do), obviously.

Remove something from the collection, as in take it out of the set. As
in I don't want it in my "portable" subset at all anymore. Forex,
yesterday I decided I no longer wanted anything from Loreena McKennett
in my portable set, so I moved everything from her from the
subdirectory I use for my portable music to the subdirectory I use for
everything else. When I next synched my portable player, she was
removed from it.

> When I manage my SD card's music, I have X GB free on the card, which

That's double-maintenance, and I find that to be a massive waste of
time due to the double effort it takes. Music library maintenance is
done on the desktop and only on the desktop. 

The portable set is maintained by something that mirrors the desktop
collection, or in the case of having less storage portably than on the
desktop, something that will automatically randomize what gets on the
card from a predefined set. Otherwise, you (I) will wind up with the
same music all the time.

> accommodates Y albums' worth of files, and I select albums until I run
> out of space. Then copy and paste and I'm done. It's very similar to
> how I would select CDs to be taken on a trip -- figure out how much
> room I have (or albums I need), pick albums from the collection, and
> stick in my bag. With the MP3 collection, all that just happens in
> filespace.

And that's why I don't want to do it manually. I have 17G of music in
my portable set for a reason, and there is a reason I have a 30G
portable media player. I was testing out the ability to do this with
the Treo with a 4G card to see how it would work. If it worked, I was
going to get the 16G Patriot card via newegg.com which would hold
almost all of my collection as it stands right now, and I'd only be
missing a few hundred at a time.

But if I cannot get the file management to work, then the whole thing
is bust.

> But you can't fit 17GB on your Treo (we're getting close with the new
> 16GB cards that are out), so I'm not sure why you need an entirely
> different process for a subset of this 17GB subset. Maybe I'm just
> daft and it's not worth it to explain it more clearly. :-/

I have a large capacity player so I can have the entire collection with
me on random play. Like a personal radio station, minus the DJ and
commercials. Using something that holds less than the full collection,
the next best thing is to use something that will put a random
selection onto the device. Winamp calls this "autofill". Windows
Media Player calls it "random sync". These programs have these
features precisely to do what I wanted to do here, until those 32G
cards come out.

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Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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