Sorry Craig, I sometimes seem to get some of the emails in this group either out of order or not at all, so I missed anything that was overly proseltyzing. Alli's message without this seemed a bit off, and even with this her follow-up seems still a bit off:
"The occasional comparisons can't be helped, but do you invite the preacher from the other church to give the guest sermon every week?" I guess I just don't see this as a church, but rather a town-square. I certainly understand why we shouldn't be talking SOLELY about other devices. We should at least be relating them to Treo's in order for them to be relevant to the mission of this group. And as I mentioned, the fact that Palm has decided to make WM devices kind of blurs the lines a bit here. Many of the Palm fans on this list equate Palm with PalmOS. That's only natural, but Treos now come in WM flavor as well, so the question is, although there are only a few of us on here compared to the majority of PalmOS treo users, can we still talk freely about WM Treos? Practically speaking I don't do this because there are so few others with WM devices here (that I've seen post), it seems more fruitful for me to post to WMExperts/TreoCentral. But I do keep a subscription here specifically because some of the GENERAL discussion here (not specific to Treos or to Palm), is interesting to me. There are lots of knowledgeable people here who have experience with not just Treos and not just PalmOS. I know that the name of the group is called Treo, but it is this more general discussion that I find most interesting these days partly because I know longer use PalmOS. In any case, I think people advocating for a particular OS either by constantly saying how great it is or by constantly trashing others doesn't really add a whole lot of information, mostly noise. I've come to believe that reputations for one device or another are just that - reputations. They are not scientific studies, and there are bound to be lemons for every device out there that cause one person or another to have the impression that the device is trash and to spread that impression. A lot of this boils down to personal tastes and personal experiences, and simply what a given person's need is for various features and functions. Yet people still seem to get overly attached to a given device or OS, and of course it's not only true with just smartphones. Anyone remember alt.pc.windows.advocacy? Oh, maybe it's still out there, but I stopped looking at newsgroups at least 10 years ago! :) Levi ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Froehle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo Yahoo Group On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Levi Wallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but if you truly are going to censor this group when PalmOS is criticized (or > other > platforms are lauded) too much for your taste, to me this becomes a not > particularly open place anymore. Hardly my/our objective, Levi...if you recall, I've been quite critical of Palm in the past and have even publicly stated my desire to see how Android might offer me a next move. I'm all for discussion and debate (and thoughtful, balanced comparisons to alternatives), but coming in here like a pack of Jehovah's Witnesses and distracting the conversation by constantly beating the Blackberry drum just isn't highly regarded. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but, as Joel and others have clearly stated, this group is first and foremost a place for Treo owners (and potential owners) to share useful information about Treos. It doesn't have to always be on-topic (for Pete's sake!), but when a particular individual shows a pattern of consistent disregard for that overall guideline, temporary moderation is put into effect. - Craig ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
