IMO those who are only upset today have missed the previous 7 (perhaps 15) years of warnings. There is a deeper problem at work here. Hopefully it is addressed sometime soon.
-----Original Message----- From: "Sam Cayze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: 7/10/08 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [Treo] Treo 800w I my eyes, A VERY VERY sad day in the history of the United States. From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Messeder Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w President Bush signed today a law which effectively guarantees that any entity with access to our communications, writings, calendars, etc. can turn over that information to law enforcement. No judges, no search warrants. Just someone noticing that you've sent an email to someone named Mahmoud. With the Fourth Amendment out of the way, I guess worrying about Apple and Microsoft is pointless. On the other hand, my Treo680 still does a bunch of stuff that's important to me, that no other device does. Oh, well. On 07/10/2008 5:28:44 PM -0400 L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ldouglas%40gmail.com> > wrote: > Except where it comes to Canadian rate plans (allegedly)? > > I don't dispute that Apple is good at what it does, I just personally don't like that kind of Microsoftian approach. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Roger Prokic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:roger%40prokic.org> > > To: "Treo User Palm Treo User Group" <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: 7/10/08 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w > > Apple has a winning business model and as such they make the rules. As a developer you can join them and your earnings could be very lucrative. > --- > Roger Prokic > Baltimore, Maryland > -=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=- > > -----Original Message----- > From: L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ldouglas%40gmail.com> > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:30:43 > To: <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: RE: [Treo] Treo 800w > > > By preventing apps (real apps) from getting on the phone without using their pipe? Isn't that the definition of control? > > Whether it's sound business logic or not is a matter of opinion. But some people prefer a freer approach to application development and distribution. You know, the whole "barriers to entry" thing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Roger Prokic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:roger%40prokic.org> > > To: "Treo User Palm Treo User Group" <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: 7/10/08 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w > > I don't think Apple is in any way controlling the tools for the iPhone. They are demonstrating business intelligence - the power to capitalize on their innovation. Their iPhone 3G App Store goes online today at 9am PDT. We will all get a chance to see the various offerings from 3rd party developers... It'll be the time to see if the iPhone 3G is all hype or whether it stands a chance at being a real business tool instead of a toy as the current version is IMO. > > Roger > --- > Roger Prokic > Baltimore, Maryland > -=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=- > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Messeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jmesseder%40comcast.net> > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:50:53 > To: <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w > > > Make that for me a raw, unbiding, philosophical loathing of Microsoft in > general. An invorrigible techno-toy junkiy, I refrained from the first > Siemens smartphone because it would have force me to use Outlook, an > application I had tried and hated. I have used other parts of Microsoft > Office because I had to get along with clients. I'm currently on Office > 2003; I don't remember the requirement that made me upgrade, but I > remember being wicked upset when Microsoft decided all my knowledge of > WordBasic macro writing was done away with. > I tell that to tell this -- last night, I allowed Microsoft to > install a Very Important Security Update. When it was over, I had no > Internet access. There was a warning that I might need to restart > Windows at the end of the installation process, but not that it was > about to turn ZoneAlarm into a brick wall between me and the Internet. > Fortunately, I am on a list that deal with such stuff and remembered > already downloading an email that refered to a similar occurence with > other non-MS firewalls. > It now appears that Apple may be headed in the same direction with > its iPhone. As cool as the device is, there's just something wrong about > one company having that much control over my choice of tools. > I wonder whether there will be an 800P. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
