There needs to be a change from the far right (where we are now) to anywhere on the left.
As much as I am not convinced that Obama is President material, we have no other choice. McCain will continue what Bush has started. This from a Republican who also thinks we've gone too far to the right. Roger ------Original Message------ From: Craig Froehle Sender: Treo User Palm Treo User Group To: Treo User Palm Treo User Group ReplyTo: Treo User Palm Treo User Group Sent: Jul 10, 2008 21:14 Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w Possibly not before something very, very bad happens. Americans have become far too fat and happy...and lazy...for mass protests like we saw in the 60s. And short of that, I don't see much changing for the better unless there's a long string of refreshingly sincere presidents in office. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:06 PM, L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMO those who are only upset today have missed the previous 7 (perhaps 15) > years of warnings. There is a deeper problem at work here. Hopefully it is > addressed sometime soon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Sam Cayze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 7/10/08 6:10 PM > Subject: RE: [Treo] Treo 800w > > I my eyes, A VERY VERY sad day in the history of the United States. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > John Messeder > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w > > > > President Bush signed today a law which effectively guarantees that any > entity with access to our communications, writings, calendars, etc. can > turn over that information to law enforcement. No judges, no search > warrants. Just someone noticing that you've sent an email to someone > named Mahmoud. > With the Fourth Amendment out of the way, I guess worrying about > Apple and Microsoft is pointless. > On the other hand, my Treo680 still does a bunch of stuff that's > important to me, that no other device does. > Oh, well. > > On 07/10/2008 5:28:44 PM -0400 > L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ldouglas%40gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Except where it comes to Canadian rate plans (allegedly)? >> >> I don't dispute that Apple is good at what it does, I just personally > don't like that kind of Microsoftian approach. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Roger Prokic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:roger%40prokic.org> > >> To: "Treo User Palm Treo User Group" <[email protected] > <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: 7/10/08 4:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w >> >> Apple has a winning business model and as such they make the rules. As > a developer you can join them and your earnings could be very lucrative. >> --- >> Roger Prokic >> Baltimore, Maryland >> -=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=- >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ldouglas%40gmail.com> > >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:30:43 >> To: <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: RE: [Treo] Treo 800w >> >> >> By preventing apps (real apps) from getting on the phone without using > their pipe? Isn't that the definition of control? >> >> Whether it's sound business logic or not is a matter of opinion. But > some people prefer a freer approach to application development and > distribution. You know, the whole "barriers to entry" thing. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Roger Prokic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:roger%40prokic.org> > >> To: "Treo User Palm Treo User Group" <[email protected] > <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: 7/10/08 8:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w >> >> I don't think Apple is in any way controlling the tools for the > iPhone. They are demonstrating business intelligence - the power to > capitalize on their innovation. Their iPhone 3G App Store goes online > today at 9am PDT. We will all get a chance to see the various offerings > from 3rd party developers... It'll be the time to see if the iPhone 3G > is all hype or whether it stands a chance at being a real business tool > instead of a toy as the current version is IMO. >> >> Roger >> --- >> Roger Prokic >> Baltimore, Maryland >> -=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=- >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Messeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:jmesseder%40comcast.net> > >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:50:53 >> To: <[email protected] <mailto:treo%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w >> >> >> Make that for me a raw, --- Roger Prokic Baltimore, Maryland -=[ Sent via BlackBerry 8820 by AT&T ]=-
