Bastiat? He said: "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." --Frederic Bastiat
...... Original Message ....... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:32:54 -0400 John Messeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Some French guy couple hundred years ago said pretty much the same thing. > >On 07/10/2008 10:07:44 PM -0400 >Scandals & Animals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I haven't been interested in a Treo 800W, so I've been deleting the >> messages in this thread. Look what I've been missing! >> >> Economist Gary North was asked his opinion on when Americans might regain >> their freedom. His answer: "When checks from Washington DC no longer buy >> anything." >> >> ...... Original Message ....... >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:14:20 -0400 "Craig Froehle" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Possibly not before something very, very bad happens. >>> >>> Americans have become far too fat and happy...and lazy...for mass >>> protests like we saw in the 60s. And short of that, I don't see much >>> changing for the better unless there's a long string of refreshingly >>> sincere presidents in office. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:06 PM, L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> IMO those who are only upset today have missed the previous 7 (perhaps >>>> >> 15) years of warnings. There is a deeper problem at work here. Hopefully it >> is addressed sometime soon. >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Sam Cayze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: 7/10/08 6:10 PM >>>> Subject: RE: [Treo] Treo 800w >>>> >>>> I my eyes, A VERY VERY sad day in the history of the United States. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> John Messeder >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:05 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Treo] Treo 800w >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> President Bush signed today a law which effectively guarantees that any >>>> entity with access to our communications, writings, calendars, etc. can >>>> turn over that information to law enforcement. No judges, no search >>>> warrants. Just someone noticing that you've sent an email to someone >>>> named Mahmoud. >>>> With the Fourth Amendment out of the way, I guess worrying about >>>> Apple and Microsoft is pointless. >>>> On the other hand, my Treo680 still does a bunch of stuff that's >>>> important to me, that no other device does. >>>> Oh, well. >>>> >>>> On 07/10/2008 5:28:44 PM -0400 >>>> L D <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ldouglas%40gmail.com> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Except where it comes to Canadian rate plans (allegedly)? >>>>> >>>>> I don't dispute that Apple is good at what it does, I just personally >>>>> >>>> don't like that kind of Microsoftian approach. >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
