I've tried to stay out of the fray as this has strayed so far off topic but since I didn't start it, and because I'm a lawyer who advises clients in civil rights matters, let me just say it can all by crystalized by one issue: the Supreme Court. If you want to live in a civilization conceived of by the extreme right of Scalia and even further out Thomas, your
Pretty much everyone here, extreme techhies, value their independence and privacy. This court doesn't tend to agree with you, and it won't get any better barring a sea change in the political landscape. Now I'm done. Carry on. Harold [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
