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Man, David, I just can't keep quiet any longer. Judging from your previous 
posts (e.g. the one two weeks ago, titled 'A release'), you are not doing the 
exercises as they are described in the book. If you're not following "Denis's" 
style, as you put it, you can't blame it on Denis when you fall flat on your 
face because of it. I'm sorry man, but that's the simple truth of the matter. 

TROM is simple. It may not be 'easy' (the biggest problem being disciplining 
oneself to just do it, and doing it regularly), but it is 'simple'. It is not 
complicated and hard to understand. True, some of the underlying theory 
pertaining to level 5 you'll have to chew on a bit before you really understand 
it. But what's level 5 got to do with level 3? You're on level 3 now, aren't 
you? Why is it necessary to understand level 5 before you can do levels 1-3? 
Levels 1-3 are very simple. The commands are very simple. And if you understand 
them (they may be hard to grasp because they are so simple) and you do them, 
you will have gains and will make progress. I myself haven't fully understood 
all of the TROM manual (mostly some of the level 5 stuff). But that's okay, 
because I'm not on level 5 and none of it will prevent me from doing Levels 1 - 
3 properly. If I have a question or I bog down, I post it on the forum, I ask 
for help. That's what the forum is for: for help and support. How are your 
tirades help or support? 

Putting together a simplified version of TROM as a 'supplement' (NOT a 
substitute) to the TROM manual - IF at all necessary - I would entrust only to 
someone who has actually understood TROM thoroughly and in its entirety, who 
has done the exercises faithfully as per the instructions in the manual and has 
had great wins with them. Are you really sure you are that person? 

Having He-Man, the master of the universe on this forum, self-proclaimed 
saviour who will save us all - that's still bearable. And who knows, maybe he 
really is who he says he is. In which case, good for all those of us who will 
be saved come December 2012. 
But having someone trash Denis, calling him a 'fucking asshole', trashing TROM 
and calling for it to be stripped to its bare bones, that's just too much, man. 
That's just a little too much. I'm sure you can see that. 

So David, chill out man. I'd rather see you winning with TROM than running off 
having had a really bad experience with it. Really, I do. I want to see you 
winning all the way. I want to see you thoroughly completing each level, all 
the way until the top of level 5.
I'm sure someone here on this forum will be happy to help you out if you decide 
you want to get unbogged and carry on with actual TROM. It can't be me, as I'm 
not at Level 3 yet. But someone will certainly answer your call, should it be 
an honest and sincere one. 

But, for Pete's sake (no pun intended), enough with all that trash talk 
already! It's not helping in any way. 

So, let's do some TROM, shall we? :-)

Harry 
(Still a compulsive games player, as you can see. But I'm working on it. :-) )



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