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Hi Mac You make many good points in your answer to David.
I would like to ad that Ouran in his Ghost Danse articles observed that as he tried to look at level 100 of the tone chart which is knowingness and creation he found that the mind is wonderfully creative and will instantly conjure up any "reality" the being wants to see. It was therefore very hard to pin down what this area of the tone scale actually was. Ouran also makes the observation that viewing the area at the tone scale called native state is not possible from points below knowingness on the tone scale. A being who is compulsively involved in creating games cannot get a good reality on native state or nirvana which would be just being joyfully without any need to do or have anything. My own experience early on in the Catholic idea of heaven "where I was expected after death to go sit around admiring what a fine fellow God is" sounded awfully boring to me. Likewise trying to understand TROM where it says to find a postulate conflict and timebreak the charge from it. I at first found it difficult to recognize what the postulate conflicts were. After all, being continually obsessing over my problems with lovers, money, taxes, government rules etc. is "normal" isn't it. It took reading the Ghost Danse articles and Levenson' s Keys to Ultimate Freedom and postulating that I was in a state of "Nirvana" or just being joyfully, harmless to everyone while doing and needing nothing that I began to recognize my compulsive game playing. It is all fun and interesting. Keep on TROMing Pete
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