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My name is Richard and I have been doing Trom for quite a while. In my 
experience starting off with RI's always creates a rising tone arm up to the 
point of a blowdown. I've assumed the starvation for mass has been satisfied at 
that point. But the tone arm is frequently still out of range so I use a reach 
and withdraw or various rubbing to handle the residual mass buildup. The end 
result is always an F/N at around 2.6-3.0 tone arm. I always start the chart 
with an in range TA. Will someone explain to me why the rubbings of either the 
body or objects so dramatically drops the tone arm? 

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Subject: Re: [TROM1] Pete re: Have you run RI on the meter ? 

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Hello Pete, 

My experience of E-meter phenomena when running subjective RI is similar 
to Ralph's.  When I get mockups appearing - which may take a few tries - 
they read as falls or even blowdowns.  When RI is topped up the process 
stops getting TA and the needle is loose or floating. 

There was an old stable datum from LRH (mentioned in Dianetics Today, 
for example) that the right havingness process for a particular pc would 
loosen their needle; if it tightened the needle it wasn't 'their' 
havingness process. 

Cheers, 

David 



On 16.03.2014 09:35, Pete Mclaughlin wrote: 
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> Hi Ralph 
> Thanks for responding. 
> 
> I do not think I have a problem with the command to "create 
> something". At least it seems to be doable as I can create stuff all 
> around myself. 
> 
> However the TA does go up. 
> 
> When I rub my feet on the floor or hands on chest or legs the TA drops 
> rapidly from 5.5 to 3.3 in les than a minute. 
> 
> Maybe I need to do the hands on RI till I get one of the subjective 
> commands to work. 
> 
> Sincerely 
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
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> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Ralph Clouse <[email protected]> 
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>> Hi Pete 
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>> While doing RI while on the meter, 
>> I find a slight fall, or more depending on the importance. 
>> 
>> Then more or less idling-floating. 
>> 
>> If your RI is topped up, no falls, just idling or F/N. 
>> 
>> The wider the meter action the better. If needle is tight, not 
>> moving much, more RI is needed,or incorect RI commands. 
>> 
>> Create is a charged item in the mind for many. Thus could cause 
>> higher TA, as you are going against " thou shalt not create" as 
>> Dennis mentions. 
>> 
>> Dennis Quote. 
>> 
>> "The word ‘create’ is for many an emotionally charged word, and 
>> these people will find the preceding commands easier. They mean the 
>> same thing." 
>> 
>> "In passing, those who have followed the theory so far will have 
>> realized that one sure way to louse a being up is to convince him 
>> that he cannot create. Once he is convinced of this lie he is, of 
>> course, trapped forever - not only in the universe, but in the 
>> compulsive playing of games. In the final instance only his 
>> creativity will free him. Thus, the ‘entrappers’ of this 
>> universe basically sing only one song: ‘Thou cannot create’. 
>> They don’t have to sing any others; this one is quite sufficient 
>> to do the trick. It's a mournful dirge and appears under a myriad 
>> guises." 
>> 
>> I would say you might try other RI commands on the meter, see how 
>> they run, till a nice loose needle, or Floating Needle. 
>> 
>> Keep on TROMing 
>> 
>> Ralph 
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