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Hi Pete,
Comments below.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Pete Mclaughlin wrote:
Hi Paul
What I am trying to determine is in a single auditing session
should I expect that RI when run to no more change will end in a
normal TA and FN?
That is not a given for there is no auditor with the purpose to get a
reading item and take it to TA blow down and F/N. It certainly can
happen tough. But if you don't get it, don't worry. There is no one
there to go earlier similar or has a withhold been missed. Don't try
this on your own because you have no way to test for earlier similars
or W/H's you could wind yourself up into a higher TA and a stuck needle.
If this is correct then in my solo session I should run RI to TA
3.0 and FN before starting the level I am working on.
With TROM it is not a necessity to get yourself in session for you
are not giving commands and looking for reads and doing a standard
auditing proceedure. Just stick with the TimeBreaking.
In the little Scientology auditing I did the practice was to run
rudes to FN followed by the next action ordered by the C/S.
Again, this is for the auditor to be able to know that the PC is in
session and metering can occur. After a TimeBreaking session you can
use a meter to check the TA and needle action but TimeBreaking is not
metered action.
Since Dennis says that if the PC has a meter he can run level 2 and
3 on the meter and abide by what it shows it would be good to put
up some information on the list showing what a meter will indicate
as RI and Timebreak are done in session.
If you can point me to where Dennis says that, I will review it. I
am Solo trained too but don't recall this information from Dennis. I
have a meter but didn't use it at all on any of the Levels.
Sincerely
Pete
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Hi Pete,
Answer below.
Keep on TROMmoing, Paul
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Hi Paul
Is the effect of a complete session of RI that the TA will be at
normal for the sex of the individual. That the person will be
exterior and ready to do the next session action?
That is not a given. It is possible but not to be counted on.
The reason being that RI does not address the mind and it's
compulsions directly but it does free up one's free will which can
be an over-riding action to the mind but it does not directly
handle a compulsive action item of the mind. So a compulsive
action of the mind still has the opportunity to come into play in
the future under the right conditions. Ri can be a remedy to a
recurring compulsion but it will not undo that compulsion
permanently.
Yes, RI can be a changer but is not a permanent fix. The
permanent fix is Levels 2, 3 and 4.
Sincerely
Pete
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Hi Richard and All,
My answer comes from experience as a Class VI Auditor.
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My name is Richard and I have been doing Trom for quite a
while. In my experience starting off with RI's always creates a
rising tone arm up to the point of a blowdown. I've assumed the
starvation for mass has been satisfied at that point. But the
tone arm is frequently still out of range so I use a reach and
withdraw or various rubbing to handle the residual mass
buildup. The end result is always an F/N at around 2.6-3.0 tone
arm. I always start the chart with an in range TA.
Will someone explain to me why the rubbings of either the body
or objects so dramatically drops the tone arm?
First of all, high TA is an indication of no confront. This is
an indication of being interiorized. Things that can lead to
interiorization are overts , withholds. basically fear, anger,
etc. High TA is a physical phenomenon. In auditing, it is
difficult to audit over a high TA. The reason being that one
has interiorized and is not there, not in session with his
body. So an auditor giving a session has to get the PC reading
on the meter or results will be very hard to come by. The
reason is that the PC is not able to produce good meter readings
because of the high TA.
High TA being a physical thing means that the PC's body is not
closely in tune with what the PC is doing and not only are reads
very hard to come by but in most cases cannot even be seen with
a meter. Because of this, not only are reads hard to come by if
at all but any kind of needle movement has to be suspect as if
may or may not be a reaction to the auditing question.
So what happens when the TA is brought down with rubbing,
touching, hand cream, etc. just brings the PC's body more in
tune with the consciousness, the soul, the spirit, the Thetan.
Now if you are using the meter to meter what the mind and the
Thetan, consciousness are doing, it can be seen on the needle
movement.
I would say that somewhere between Levels 2, 3 and 4 of TROM,
the TA (chronic wise) should be in the 3.0 range for males and
2.0 range for females. Meaning that no particular actions are
necessary to bring the TA down for the PC has now eliminated
those reasons in the mind to back away and withhold.
Also bringing the TA down before doing RI or any TROM action is
not a necessity nor does it do any enhancing of TROM actions.
It is purely a physical body thing that is necessary for
reliable readings on a meter for an auditor to assess what the
PC is doing with the auditing question. TROM is not audited
action.
Keep on TROMmoing, Paul
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