David,
I'm wondering what you mean by "shadow", etc. You think we still need to
obey God's laws, don't you? You don't lie, steal, commit murder, adultery,
etc., do you? God's laws have not been done away with have they?
I don't go around lying, etc. I USED to do that type of thing as a way of
life, but no longer, now that I am in Christ. Knowing Him should make us
more observant of God's laws than we were before, don't you think??? The
only difference is that I don't lie awake at night thinking I'm going to
hell when I fail--I have an Intercessor who pleads His Blood over my sins.
That doesn't mean I have a nonchalant attitude towards obeying God, however.
The more He forgives me, the joy I have in obeying Him! ("She who is
forgiven much, loves much!") Izzy
P.S. Regarding the Sabbath being "holy" or "sanctified"--that means "set
aside for holy use", as opposed to your regular workday. It does not mean
that we cannot worship God every day. Everything we do should be an act of
worship, whether we are resting or working. We were not told to worship on
the Sabbath, but to REST. Hopefully, we use our day of rest to reflect on
Him and His Word.
Exodus 35
2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to
you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein
shall be put to death.
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David Miller wrote:
>> Now, let me ask you if you are open to me showing you
>> that the seventh day Sabbath commandment was also a
>> shadow. Are you willing to consider Scripture and
>> arguments to consider this? My position is that the seventh
>> day Sabbath was a shadow. Your position is that it was not
>> a shadow. Correct?
Marlin wrote:
> As a shadow, God's presence is in it, a holy day, set aside
> for fellowshipping with Him. It is a shadow of God's coming
> dwelling with men in His millennial reign, as well as His dwelling
> with us in Spirit now. But we must also work the six days, so
> the same fellowship is not possible on the days He has not
> sanctified as holy.
Wow! There are no days sanctified by God EXCEPT Sabbath? We cannot worship
the Lord on Monday because it is a work day? Am I hearing you right on this
Marlin? Do you mean that if I heal the sick or preach the Word of God on
Monday that I have violated the Sabbath commandment?
Marlin wrote:
> Are you willing to consider that the Sabbath is
> the seventh day?
Sure. I believe that the seventh day is a Sabbath day.
Marlin wrote:
> Are you willing to consider that the fourth commandment
> is about working the six days that precede it?
Sure. Primarily the fourth commandment is about sanctifying the seventh
day, but it does mention working six days.
Now will you answer a question for me? Are you willing to consider that the
seventh day Sabbath observance, and six work days preceeding it, are shadows
of something else that Jesus Christ revealed? Are you willing to consider
that this law was part of a covenant with Israel?
Marlin wrote:
> Trying to say it is "every day" is an idea of men, invented
> because they refuse God's clear commandment and want
> to meet on the venerable day of Sun worship.
I've never said that Sabbath was every day, but I suppose those who do are
not stressing meeting on the day of Sun worship but rather stressing the
need to worship God every day. I don't follow your logic here.
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
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