Re: [TruthTalk] Thus saith YahShua

[Marlin Halverson]

Dear Michael D.,   Just for the record, I do not say the following as you claim:   You say: ...Keep the yoke You say:... Don't cast her out, we need her to help Jesus. You say: ...We are still in the law, although we have Christ You say: ...We are not [dead to the law] You say ...Not so [Paul says: ...If I go back under the law I make myself a transgressor] You say: ...It is. [Righteousness...not by the law]   Obviously, you do not understand what I have said.  I do not know that you can understand.  There comes a point where I just have to leave this in God's hands.  I have obviously failed to edify you and I apologize. I pray that the Lord will teach you as He sees fit.   Love,   Marlin ----- Original Message ----- From: michael douglas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Thus saith YahShua  Marlin Halverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you therefore think that Paul is calling God a liar?   Michael D: Come again Marlin... I need you to explain what you mean here, if you will.   You seem to think that these writings of Paul do away with God's law.  I do not.    Those who reject God's law may read things into some of the writings of Paul, especially if certain passages are subtracted from the rest of scripture.  Peter warned of those who wrest the scriptures in this way.    Michael D: Marlin, it is clear that you do not understand how faith works for justification and our continuous walk with God. The very thing you say below, is clear in many of our eyes as applying to you. You don't grasp the transition from the old to the new.  The new and living way does not come home to you at all. I have shown you scripture after scripture and you refuse to see them for what they say. Peter said: ...No one should put a yoke upon the disciples that the Jews themselves were not able to bear.  You say: ...Keep the yoke Paul says: ...Cast out he bondwoman and her son. You say:... Don't cast her out, we need her to help Jesus. Paul says: ...Whatever the law says, it says to them that are under  the law, and that those in Christ are not under the law You say: ...We are still in the law, although we have Christ Paul says: ...We are dead to the law You say: ...We are not Paul says: ...If I go back under the law I make myself a transgressor You say ...Not so Paul says: ...Righteousness is not by the law You say: ...It is.   You and the Bible are at serious odds with each other. The reason there is a new covenant, is because there was a change from the old to the new. The strong statements made by the apostles concerning the unprofitableness of the old is to convince and to rebuke those who would still seek to hold on to the old in the presence of the new. Those who put their faith in Christ as the fulfilment of all that the old required, are now free to walk in newness of life.   Paul's accusers also claimed that Paul was teaching against God's law.  Paul went to great lengths to show the opposite. True. He was actually teaching the fulfilment of God's law by Christ. He did it for us, so now Paul says, cast it out, it is no longer operative for righteousness. In fact, he said it was not made for the righteous, but for sinners. He stressed in II Cor 5:21 that Christ was made to me sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. As Paul stresses, we are complete in Him. If you want one part of the law, you are adebtor to abey all of it. No exceptions.   I for one use addition to understand the whole of the Word of God, not subtraction. You will be lost for truth, if you don't understand fulfilment and transition.   --Marlin With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs