"Charles P. Locke" wrote:
> David, > > Yes, actually it does. DAVEH: If that is the case (that repentance is associated with salvation), then perhaps those who believe that there is nothing we can do to affect (as well as effect) our salvation, are misunderstanding the nature of "grace". > When one "believes", it entails much more than > just saying "I believe". Before one can truly believe one must understand > one's need for salvation, and this is predicated upon one's recognizing that > they are a sinner and an understanding that they must repent from their sin. > So, the process of establishing one's belief consists of recognizing that > one is a sinner and, as such, is unworthy of standing before a just and holy > God, realizing that there is nothing they can do to correct their sinful > situation on their own, repenting of their sin, then putting their faith in > Jesus Christ as the one whose sacrifice can save them. THEN we can say that > one truly believes and is saved. > > No, I do not think that one who does not repent is truly saved. In fact, > one who does not acknowledge his sin never feels that he needs to repent, or > that he even needs a savior. Provided he believes in an afterlife, he > believes that he will get into heaven because he has done nice things > (works), and is not a bad person (self righteousness). > > I also believe that it is the Holy spirit that convicts us of our sin in > the first place and leads us to belief. Otherwise, I fear that we might all > be lost. > > By all means, when I say that one has faith, I also imply all that leads > up to developing true faith. > > Perry > > >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers > >Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:28:47 -0800 > > > > > > > >"Charles P. Locke" wrote: > > > > > Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand that salvation comes > > > through faith, "not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph 2:8,9) > >There > > > is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves. > > > >DAVEH: Perry......Does repentance have anything to do with salvation? > >IOW, can those who don't repent be saved? > > > > > It is totally a work of our Lord and > > > Savior. To God be the glory for his endless mercy and grace. > > > > > > Perry -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
