Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers

[GJTabor]

Glenn to DaveL - The below is the different between Biblical faith and intellectual faith.  The Devils have intellectual faith in Christ, but they do not have Biblical faith. 

David,

   Yes, actually it does. When one "believes", it entails much more than
just saying "I believe". Before one can truly believe one must understand
one's need for salvation, and this is predicated upon one's recognizing that
they are a sinner and an understanding that they must repent from their sin.
So, the process of establishing one's belief consists of recognizing that
one is a sinner and, as such, is unworthy of standing before a just and holy
God, realizing that there is nothing they can do to correct their sinful
situation on their own, repenting of their sin, then putting their faith in
Jesus Christ as the one whose sacrifice can save them. THEN we can say that
one truly believes and is saved.

   No, I do not think that one who does not repent is truly saved. In fact,
one who does not acknowledge his sin never feels that he needs to repent, or
that he even needs a savior. Provided he believes in an afterlife, he
believes that he will get into heaven because he has done nice things
(works), and is not a bad person (self righteousness).

   I also believe that it is the Holy spirit that convicts us of our sin in
the first place and leads us to belief. Otherwise, I fear that we might all
be lost.

   By all means, when I say that one has faith, I also imply all that leads
up to developing true faith.

Perry

>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers
>Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:28:47 -0800
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>"Charles P. Locke" wrote:
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> > Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand that salvation comes
> > through faith, "not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph 2:8,9)
>There
> > is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves.
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>DAVEH:   Perry......Does repentance have anything to do with salvation? 
>IOW, can those who don't repent be saved?
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> > It is totally a work of our Lord and
> > Savior. To God be the glory for his endless mercy and grace.
> >