I know this will manufacture or engender a bit of grief, so I apologize at the forefront.
Paul was a Pharisee before his conversion and claimed his Pharisaic "membership" even at the close of his life. Many from the sect of the Pharisees were believers as well (a testimony we never hear regarding the supposed Zadok descendants: the Saducees). The Pharisees saw "sin" as rated in three categories: 1. Inadvertent sin -- the "oops" we all in TruthTalk do once in a *great* while. 2. Intentional sin -- the sin we do in spite of the fact that we know its wrong... the "who cares" kind of sin that we in TruthTalk *never* do. 3. Rebellion/Iniquity -- The sin we do BECAUSE it is sin... the "Yeah? Well, &%#$-you! That's WHY I'm doing it" sin we in TruthTalk *never* do. When reading this passage penned by Paul, please consider which type of sin he could be referring to. Perfection is attainable for us all. Mistakes (the *oops*) are made, by the way, by those who are trying. When something "reigns" in our life, we submit to it. This excludes the "oops" in our lives. -- slade By the way, one "definition" I heard regarding Biblical "perfection" is "whole-hearted." ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2003 13:21 Subject: Re:Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers > >Rom 6:12 -- Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, > > the Ap Paul knows that sin is present; sin demands to 'reign' in him; therefore, the command--think about it--'do not let sin reign' is either a radical modification of JCs 'be ye perfect' or it is exactly what JC (the King) meant by it(which is what I believe it means, partic given that the verb 'reign' relates/juxtaposes precisely with JCs personal need to 'reign'in his people, none of whom are as Christian as Christ himself > > so, if JC didn't countenance ALL of his people learning to walk with Him in love, there would be no sanctification of us--no salvific process in which JCs people 'grow', a sound NT word/concept throughout > > relative to NT 'growth', if the Ap Paul expected absolute perfection of certain individuals as it is employed/twisted here--i.e., twisted to mean absolute obedient legal behavioral sinlessness at all times and forever right now--there would be no NT such as (e.g.) I,II Corinthians where believers' sins are 'treated', not abolished--they are taught, encouraged to 'grow', not to comply..indeed! there would be no bible outside of an angel walkin' guard at the gates of Eden > > g > > > gary ottoson * http://poet235.com > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
