Re: [TruthTalk] Everyone Has Sinned Inadvertently

[Slade Henson]

You said... Romans teaches that  in  the kingdom of God, Jewish followers of Jesus by faith have been 'released' from the Law of Moses--obviously Gentiles who follow Jesus by faith are 'delivered' from it, too       Slade says... Gentiles have no reason to keep any law of God at all. They don't have to love God or love their neighbor. They can curse God and it doesn't matter a spit. What they do has no bearing on the Kingdom WHATSOEVER.   Do you know why??   THERE ARE NO GENTILES IN THE  KINGDOM OF GOD!!   Perhaps you need to read Romans 11 again. Those who were formerly far off have been brought close. THEY ARE GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL. They are NO LONGER GENTILES.   If you are in covenant with the Almighty, you are not a Gentile. You need to start getting your semantics straight. If you want to continue calling yourself a Gentile, perhaps you really need to take a close look at your relationship with the God of Israel.   -- slade     By the way, I never said works and the Law was a replacement for faith or that the "method by which we get to the Kingdom" is through the Law. Salvation was NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER the intent of the Law. Even in the days of Moshe, the Law was NOT THE METHOD of gaining Eternal Life. Get that idea out of your head. It doesn't belong there. Stop suggesting such garbage and stop insinuating that Torah Observance is or was a substitute for Grace at any time in World History.   And another thing: Jesus taught two things. He taught the PROPER application of Torah (Matt 5-7 is but one example); He often taught by debunking the common thought of the day. He also taught that salvation came through faith.   James taught that the refusal to apply Torah to your life was proof that you do not have saving faith.   And you are right. If you fellow "JC" biblically (which is by faith), you will die to sin ; but if you don't apply His Torah, you will die IN your sins. James tells you so. Believe him.   -- slade, again ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 March, 2003 23:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Everyone Has Sinned Inadvertently   Romans teaches that  in  the kingdom of God, Jewish followers of Jesus by faith have been 'released' from the Law of Moses--obviously Gentiles who follow Jesus by faith are 'delivered' from it, too   [Gentiles, as Terry pointed out once, a loo~ong ti~iime ag~go :-) were never under it]   also, in Romans, ALL who follow JC biblically, by faith, have died to sin; and, dead to sin, they ALL realize that the Law is dead; it simply can't do for them what faith can   Jesus teaches this faith (in himself) not Law; Moses teaches this faith in Jesus not Law; so do the Prophets   the Ap Paul believed them; he studied them diligently, too; and, through the Holy Spirit's power he was able to understand/teach all who would come to Jesus by faith (at his rented quarters in Rome, where he probably wrote Romans) 'the kingdom of God' not Law (Acts 28)