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Charles Perry Locke wrote:

> Laura,
>
> �� When we become Christians we enter into the new covenant.

DAVEH:� That is one thing that I am curious about, Perry.� How is it that you enter 
into that covenant?

> DavidH thinks that Baptism is a covenant.

DAVEH:� Correct.

> However, I asked him in a post on April 14th to
> demonstrate that Baptism fullfills the necessary elements of a covenant, and
> he ignored the post.

DAVEH:� I plead guilty.� I've ignored a lot of posts.....mainly because I don't have 
enough time to devote to everything that comes my way.

��� If you would explain what necessary elements are necessary for a covenant to be 
entered into, I'll try to answer your question.

> Keep up the good work, Laura. However, arguing with DavidH will never change
> his twisted LDS point of view. His method is to wear his opponent down with
> twisted arguments until they give up in exasperation, which he then
> considers as winning thel debate. His goal is not to learn, or to seek the
> truth,

DAVEH:� I have repeatedly explained why I am on TT, Perry.� Do you not remember?� I am 
here to learn what Protestants believe and why they believe that way.� Do you have a 
problem with that?

> but to practice defending his views in spite of the facts, a practice
> I find widespread among the LDS. To the LDS, the truth is what Joseph Smith
> said, not what the Bible says, and they have the prooftexts to prove it!

DAVEH:� LOL.......Well Perry, you may think they are "prooftexts", but from my 
perspective you are lacking perspective.� For example, you seem to think we practice 
baptism for the dead because we have prooftexted 1Cor 15:29.� Nothing can be further 
from
the truth.� In reality, we practice it because of latter-day revelation.� It is your 
lack of perspective that gives you the perception that we prooftext such passages.� 
The same applies to many other doctrines.� We believe the Lord has revealed much more
of his Gospel, which makes it easier to understand that which was previously 
revealed.� I realize you don't accept that, but it explains why we view things a bit 
differently and why (from your limited perspective) you think we sometimes prooftext.

> Perry
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Natural birth or baptism?
> >Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:59:31 EDT
> >
> >In a message dated 5/18/2003 2:55:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > DAVEH:� Just out of curiosity, Laura, do you believe a covenant is
> >necessary
> > > for salvation?
> > > >> BUT works should follow a salvation decision.� Laura
> > >
> >
> >What do you mean by covenant?� Laura

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