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> Date: 11/23/2003 7:54:21 AM
> Subject: [TruthTalk] Chuck Spingola/Love
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> From: "Carrolll Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Judy: They have a gut reaction because they don't understand the gospel
> Dean, they think it is 'fairy tales' I thought so myself at one time.
> Jesus was some unreal character like in a history book to me. I was
> searching in all the wrong places for love and for truth and my search
> took me into the occult. I didn't embrace it as fully as TPW because it
> never made a whole lot of sense but I was there and if someone had gotten
> in my face with a "Fear God" t-shirt I may have reacted the same way.
> People out there fear everything already. Have you ever tried "Love God"
> on a t-shirt? Judy
>
>
> Dean: Thank you for sharing that-I have found that most people have
> heard the Love message and are still in sin-the "Fear God" message draws
> them to me so as to explain the complete Gospel to them.
>
> jt: That's interesting, kind of like Halloween? I've never ever been
> drawn to fear pagan or otherwise. It is God's love shed abroad in my
> heart that makes me free. People may have heard a lot of talk about
> love but have they seen it demonstrated by believers toward each other
> and toward them?
##Dean writes:
Sister I have seen brothers spit, upon hit,and cursed because they loved
enough to go and preach the message to the lost-while these lost mocked
that love. I have seem brother give their last dollar to those that smiled
at be able to fool a child of God-and use that same dollar for evil. Jesus
preached the fear God message many times but also told of the way our of
Judgement-Here is the love of God in the same message. How can one tell of
salvation without there being something to be saved from. It is in the OT
and the NT. Solomon said that the whole duty of man was to fear God and
keep his commandments. Jesus said not to fear the one that can destroy the
body but instead to fear the one that can destroy both body and soul in
hell-yea rather fear him.
Romans 3:10-20 :
v.17 And the way of peace they have not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
20..for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
In short- put the law of God on a unbeliever-it will teach (schoolmaster)
them to fear God and then they will know they need a savior.In a study 89%
of those that come under the love message fall away (ie. Ray Comfort study
on salvation)-Yet those that come thur fear of God are appreciative toward
God due to being saved from hell-these remain with God. The "come just as
you are" message has failed to keep long term believers. One must come
willing to change (called repenting)-with remorse for their sins.Can a Homo
come just as they are? No they cannot.
>
> Dean: I could tell a sodomite that God loves them and it would be a lie.
>
> jt: No it would be the truth. Jesus died for sodomites, every one of
> them. Of course they will need to change, but then so do the rest of us.
> Sodomy is sin but so is anger, fear, covetousness, and all the sins of
> the flesh named in Gal 5:19 and people who do all those things don't
> inherit God's Kingdom either. While we were yet sinners Christ died for
> us, we can't comprehend such love.
##Dean writes:
Angry is not sin "Be angry and sin not" (Eph 4:26)-but can lead to sin.
When I see a brother being hurt it angers me-but I cannot let that lead me
to sin. True Jesus does love sinners but not all sinners-If Esau were
present in the crowd-could I tell that crowd that God loves you all?
Didn't God say he hated Esau (Mal 1:2)? It would be wrong to tell a crowd
this message. I tell them that God's love is over HERE-you are over
THERE-repent and come to the love of God if you are able-sadly some are not
able-but thank God some are.
>
> Dean: He (the sodomite) would of course thank me and continue on with his
> life style.-but all men should fear God even
> Christians.
>
> jt: True Dean; but it doesn't do any good to tell a Sodomite or a Pagan
> that God loves them if you are judging them in your own heart - they
> always know. God expects us to demonstrate His love. After all Jesus
> didn't come to call the
> righteous but sinners to repentance.
## As a Christian I must call down both the sin and the sinner-How can
one decide right from wrong if one doesn't judge. Yes I am limited on the
final state of the soul-God alone decides that-but I can and will warn of
the danger of sin unto the fires of hell. One cannot come to God without
repentance from sin. May God bless you my sister.
>
> Grace and Peace,
> Judy
>
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