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> jt: OK, I see why you need to talk about the wrath of God against the
> unrighteousness of men but still believe that a homosexual can come just
> as they are - they can not stay just as they are, and neither can any of
> the rest of us.
Dean writes: In the OT under the sacrificial system when one brought his
sacrifice once a year to atone for the sins of that year-God requires that
person to examine his heart and remember his wrongs committed-then that
person was to have remorse for those wrongs and God who looks at the heart
would be just to forgive that person Only if a person came with
remorse(willing to repent) could they come "Just as they are".I fail to see
where this is explained by the "come just as they are" people.
>
> ## Dean: I could tell a sodomite that God loves them and it would be a
> lie.
>
> jt: No it would be the truth. Jesus died for sodomites, every one of
> them. Of course they will need to change, but then so do the rest of us.
> Sodomy is sin but so is anger, fear, covetousness, and all the sins of
> the flesh named in Gal 5:19 and people who do all those things don't
> inherit God's Kingdom either. While we were yet sinners Christ died for
> us, we can't comprehend such love.
Dean writes:
Yes -I agree that Jesus died for the whole world-while we were yet
sinners-but one cannot remain in that state-At the moment before professing
Jesus Christ one must stop that sin-due to God saying it is wrong-and then
doing every thing within their ability too continue in righteousness. Which
means right by God's laws by definition.
1Cor.6:11 And such were some of you...
They are no more in sin-they have repented.
Luke 17:3 .., and if he repent,forgive him.
Mark 1:5...repent ye and believe the Gospel.
Acts 2:38.. Repent and be baptized.
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore and be converted.
Acts 8;22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness,and pray God...
Acts 17:30..now commandeth all men,every where to repent.
Acts 26:20..that they should repent and turn to God.
See my Sister- repentance comes first.
>
> ##Dean writes: Angry is not sin "Be angry and sin not" (Eph 4:26)-but
> can lead to sin.
>
> jt: It's a work of the flesh along with fornication, impurity,
> licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, emnities, strife, jealousy, quarrels,
> dissensions, factions, envy, drunkennessl, carousing etc. People who
> live there can't inherit the Kingdom.
Dean writes:
Acting wrongly with anger is indeed sin-but we have a right to be angry at
sin.
I will have to reply to the rest of this mailer when I return from work ..
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