Dean writes 12/17
In all honesty DaveH-When I see the brethren
interacting with you as one of their own-without any
caution for the spirit that drives you-this angers me.
Judy: Dean you are assuming there is 'no caution' I am aware
that DaveH is a Mormon, he makes no secret of the fact. I am
also aware of some of what this system teaches and have said
it is 'another gospel with a false Christ' However, why should
we be afraid of the false?
Dean writes 12/17 #
#Judy where in the Bible does it tell us to have a close relationship with the ungodly?
Dean: The Bible is clear 1 John 3:8. He that commith sin
is of the Devil...
Judy: The Mormons don't have a monopoly on sin Dean.
Anger is sin and so is fear. Can any of us say that we are
without sin and be telling the truth? We should be growing in
righteousness and sinning less but lets not throw stones.
#1.God said "Be angry sin not Eph 4:26"-God himself has gotten angry many times-are you suggesting he sins?
2.Jesus said to fear God Romans 11:20,2 Cor 7:1-so fear is not sin.
3. Can a person that just God saved not turn to the church and say I have no sin upon me? I have broken no commandments today-so I have not sinned today-and with Gods help I will not sin tomarrow-I have removed the beam (sin) from my eye and now am seeking to help others remove theirs.
Dean: To promote JS and his teachings is sin -for those
teaching are against the clear words of Christ-Hence you
are of the Devil. If you are honestly searching as you claim
then you would have listened to our teaching to some extent -
that are proven by the Bible-but you have not-and still
promote JS after about appx. 5 yrs of being here.
Judy: I've not yet seen DaveH promote Joseph Smith's
teachings on TT, in fact I've seen more chapter and verse
written by the street preachers. DH has said plainly that he
is more interested in what motivates us than how we believe
If we want to persuade him that we have the "more
excellent way" we will have to do a less accusing and be a bit
more civil.
# Then why does Terry say he has learned much from DaveH? I am not seeking to convert DaveH. Your type of civilness will be your downfall in you are not careful.
Dean: To me this proves you are completely controlled
by an "unsavory spirit" and are among our younger brethren.
How would you feel if I were allowed to spend time among
the young Mormons-teaching as I do -saying what I say?
Judy: Who was it requesting songs from the Mormon virgins
outside the temple in Salt Lake City? They could have asked
questions couldn't they. Also when the Missionaries come around
they are young and as someone said 'wet behind the ears' Why
not bind that old lying spirit and talk some truth to them? We
don't do it because we are afraid of evil and this is sin.
#The difference is Judy -I am offering truth-not a lie from the Devil-DaveH ask me what angered me-I was giving him an example he could relate to. I am absolutely amazed at you doctrine.
Dean: And then when you come in to instruct what
you perceive as truth-The young Mormons declare:
" No we love Dean let him stay for we are learning much
from him" which prove the teaching are taking effect.
Assume you can prove beyond any doubt that you have
the truth and my teaching would lead the young Mormons
to suffer greatly in hell-for all eternity. Yet the principle
of the school fails to listen (because he believes he has
it all under control-and enjoys the attention my teaching
create) and so do the children-who are unable to see the
danger.
Judy: You don't have much confidence in the Holy Spirit working
in the life of a young believer do you Dean? Look at the situation
in the book of Acts where the apostles in Jerusalem were asked
to send advice to new believers living in a totally pagan society
(Acts 15:28,29).
#And you fail to see the devil in the world and not seeing he will snare you-these warnings are all thru the Bible-OT and NT-ask yourself why are they there ? As for my confidence in the Holy Spirit-you could understand it if I were to try and explain it -so I won't.
Dean: Would you be concerned for the children-would
you be angry with me? Would you fight hard for those
children-Would you attempt to expose that Principle to the
Mormon elders-for the sake of the Children?
Judy: How can you preach in the street and go off and leave
new converts if you are this concerned for them?
# When we make (rather Jesus makes then) new converts-we send them to a local church-to be taken care of-till they grow-but still the fellowship is there even then.
Dean: Remember Judy stated to me that the Mormons way
was better then the Preacher's way of promoting the Gospel
( Mormons promote the Gospel of the Christ of the Bible?-
not so). DavidM remarked earlier that Judy listened to the
Mormons more than to him.
Judy: I must be hallucinating because I don't remember ever
saying what you have quoted above Dean - can you tell me
where/when I said this? Neither do I remember DavidM's
remark. Did you say this DavidM?
# Judy you stated that going from door to door -as the Mormons do-was better then preaching-I then informed you that God chose the foolishness of preaching to save that which was lost.
Dean: Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smiling
at me asking "Are you getting angry Dean :-) And Judy
said that I should love you also.
Judy: Judy didn't say this Dean. Jesus commands it.
# You are a liar Judy-Jesus never commanded me to love DaveH or any other worker of iniquity-Repent!
Dean: But DaveH I am really not angry at you for you will
do as you devil directs-similar to a puppet-I am angry at
the spirit that pulls you strings-and will fight harder at SLC
this year-and I am fustrated at the older brethren whom
should kn ow better-which puts me in a difficult position
for I am commanded to love them also-so yes- I should
pray-as I know that I am correct in this-and will seek to
prove that-Lord willing . Gal 5:9 A little laven leaveneth
the whole lump.
