BlaineRB: "For envy they had delivered him, . . . " Matt 27:18
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:54:26 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/17/2003 8:32:53 AM > Subject: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave > > > From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DAVEH: OK, Dean......if not my remarks, what does > make you so angry (sounding)? > > Dean writes 12/17 > In all honesty DaveH-When I see the brethren > interacting with you as one of their own-without any > caution for the spirit that drives you-this angers me. > > Judy: Dean you are assuming there is 'no caution' I am aware > that DaveH is a Mormon, he makes no secret of the fact. I am > also aware of some of what this system teaches and have said > it is 'another gospel with a false Christ' However, why should > we be afraid of the false? > Dean writes 12/17 # > #Judy where in the Bible does it tell us to have a close > relationship with the ungodly? > > Dean: The Bible is clear 1 John 3:8. He that commith sin > is of the Devil... > > Judy: The Mormons don't have a monopoly on sin Dean. > Anger is sin and so is fear. Can any of us say that we are > without sin and be telling the truth? We should be growing in > righteousness and sinning less but lets not throw stones. > #1.God said "Be angry sin not Eph 4:26"-God himself has gotten angry > many times-are you suggesting he sins? > 2.Jesus said to fear God Romans 11:20,2 Cor 7:1-so fear is not sin. > 3. Can a person that just God saved not turn to the church and say I > have no sin upon me? I have broken no commandments today-so I have > not sinned today-and with Gods help I will not sin tomarrow-I have > removed the beam (sin) from my eye and now am seeking to help others > remove theirs. > > Dean: To promote JS and his teachings is sin -for those > teaching are against the clear words of Christ-Hence you > are of the Devil. If you are honestly searching as you claim > then you would have listened to our teaching to some extent - > that are proven by the Bible-but you have not-and still > promote JS after about appx. 5 yrs of being here. > > Judy: I've not yet seen DaveH promote Joseph Smith's > teachings on TT, in fact I've seen more chapter and verse > written by the street preachers. DH has said plainly that he > is more interested in what motivates us than how we believe > If we want to persuade him that we have the "more > excellent way" we will have to do a less accusing and be a bit > more civil. > # Then why does Terry say he has learned much from DaveH? I am not > seeking to convert DaveH. Your type of civilness will be your > downfall in you are not careful. > > Dean: To me this proves you are completely controlled > by an "unsavory spirit" and are among our younger brethren. > How would you feel if I were allowed to spend time among > the young Mormons-teaching as I do -saying what I say? > > Judy: Who was it requesting songs from the Mormon virgins > outside the temple in Salt Lake City? They could have asked > questions couldn't they. Also when the Missionaries come around > they are young and as someone said 'wet behind the ears' Why > not bind that old lying spirit and talk some truth to them? We > don't do it because we are afraid of evil and this is sin. > #The difference is Judy -I am offering truth-not a lie from the > Devil-DaveH ask me what angered me-I was giving him an example he > could relate to. I am absolutely amazed at you doctrine. > > Dean: And then when you come in to instruct what > you perceive as truth-The young Mormons declare: > " No we love Dean let him stay for we are learning much > from him" which prove the teaching are taking effect. > Assume you can prove beyond any doubt that you have > the truth and my teaching would lead the young Mormons > to suffer greatly in hell-for all eternity. Yet the principle > of the school fails to listen (because he believes he has > it all under control-and enjoys the attention my teaching > create) and so do the children-who are unable to see the > danger. > > Judy: You don't have much confidence in the Holy Spirit working > in the life of a young believer do you Dean? Look at the situation > in the book of Acts where the apostles in Jerusalem were asked > to send advice to new believers living in a totally pagan society > (Acts 15:28,29). > #And you fail to see the devil in the world and not seeing he will > snare you-these warnings are all thru the Bible-OT and NT-ask > yourself why are they there ? As for my confidence in the Holy > Spirit-you could understand it if I were to try and explain it -so I > won't. > > Dean: Would you be concerned for the children-would > you be angry with me? Would you fight hard for those > children-Would you attempt to expose that Principle to the > Mormon elders-for the sake of the Children? > > Judy: How can you preach in the street and go off and leave > new converts if you are this concerned for them? > # When we make (rather Jesus makes then) new converts-we send them > to a local church-to be taken care of-till they grow-but still the > fellowship is there even then. > > Dean: Remember Judy stated to me that the Mormons way > was better then the Preacher's way of promoting the Gospel > ( Mormons promote the Gospel of the Christ of the Bible?- > not so). DavidM remarked earlier that Judy listened to the > Mormons more than to him. > > Judy: I must be hallucinating because I don't remember ever > saying what you have quoted above Dean - can you tell me > where/when I said this? Neither do I remember DavidM's > remark. Did you say this DavidM? > # Judy you stated that going from door to door -as the Mormons > do-was better then preaching-I then informed you that God chose the > foolishness of preaching to save that which was lost. > > Dean: Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smiling > at me asking "Are you getting angry Dean :-) And Judy > said that I should love you also. > > Judy: Judy didn't say this Dean. Jesus commands it. > > # You are a liar Judy-Jesus never commanded me to love DaveH or any > other worker of iniquity-Repent! > > Dean: But DaveH I am really not angry at you for you will > do as you devil directs-similar to a puppet-I am angry at > the spirit that pulls you strings-and will fight harder at SLC > this year-and I am fustrated at the older brethren whom > should kn ow better-which puts me in a difficult position > for I am commanded to love them also-so yes- I should > pray-as I know that I am correct in this-and will seek to > prove that-Lord willing . Gal 5:9 A little laven leaveneth > the whole lump. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
