David Miller wrote:

> DaveH wrote:
> > I would be curious to know if most all TTers agree
> > with the separate entities belief.  At this point...
> > few may want to offer their opinions.  I'll ask
> > some Christians I know how they believe and report
> > back.
>
> Part of the problem here is that if they know you are Mormon, they will
> want to make sure that you do not think that they agree with you.

DAVEH:  Yeah......I know.  Kinda sad, ain't it.  I hope none feel as though I am out 
to trap them as Dean has expressed his fears.  I think some may be more afraid of the 
reaction from other TTers if they agree with anything I say.  I appreciate you
taking heat for some of the stuff you've agreed with me about.

> Therefore, when you say "two entities" it is not the same idea that they
> have when they say "two persons."  The unique concept in the Trinity is
> that they are distinct persons who are of the SAME SUBSTANCE.
> Therefore, the idea of "separate entities" per se can be misleading,
> especially if a polytheistic or henotheistic view is in mind.

DAVEH:  I don't understand why that is so, DavidM.  It is quite obvious there are 3 
persons/entities in the Godhead, just as there are 3 separate people in a family of 
two parents and a child.  From what I've observed, a lot of folks get hung up on the
"oneness" of God.  I don't see why that confuses people, because I believe John pretty 
well explained it in ch 17 to mean that their oneness implies a oneness of purpose.

> Nevertheless, the relationship between a husband and wife exactly
> mirrors the relationship between the Father and the Son.

DAVEH:  Hmmmmm......I guess I should have read further before commenting above!   :-)

>  Therefore, in
> those ways in which you say that the husband and wife are separate
> persons or separate entities, so also you can say that the Father and
> the Son are separate.  The husband does not exist without the wife, and
> likewise the wife does not exist without the husband.  So it is with the
> Father and the Son.

DAVEH:  Agreed.  You and I see this similarly DavidM, But I wonder how many others 
agree.

> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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