David Miller wrote:
> DAVEH:
> > From my understanding of Protestantism (biased by my
> > LDS perspective), few Christians in the early 1800s
> > believed God the Father and Jesus, his only begotten
> > Son, were physically separate entities. Nor did anybody
> > believe (as you apparently do, Kevin) that the Lord
> > would reveal himself face to face with a modern day
> > prophet as he did in Biblical times. Nor did the
> > Christian community believe that Jesus has a physical
> > body of flesh and bone, assuming that he merely is a
> > spirit alone.
>
> I think Mormonism has misrepresented history to you on this one Dave.
DAVEH: That is exactly why I am on TT. As I've told you (TTers) before AND above, I
have a very (LDS) biased view of Protestantism. I told you what I have been led to
believe so that you can offer a contrasting opinion.
> While it is true that most Protestants did not believe modern prophets
> the way that they are seen in the Bible, they certainly considered the
> Father and Jesus to be physically separate entities, and any contrary
> view was considered unorthodox and heretical.
DAVEH: I find that very interesting. As I said before, I had believed the situation
to be exactly the opposite.
> In fact, so strongly did
> Protestants believe this that Calvin and the elders of Geneva burned
> Michael Servetus at the stake because he taught that the Father and
> Jesus were not separate entities! With regard to the bodily
> resurrection of Christ, I would challenge you to offer us one quote from
> any Protestant of the early 1800's who thought that Jesus Christ existed
> in spirit only.
DAVEH: I wasn't around back then, but I distinctly remember hearing it right here on
TT when I first joined it. As I remember it.....At the time, you corrected the person
who thought such.
Let me quote one of the exchanges......
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TTer #1 wrote:
If you have "no problem" with his definition of Jesus/God being two separate
entities,
TTer #2 replied:
Congratulations: you are but a short step away from becoming a
mormon yourself !
......
Yes, we do have to "be careful in thinking of Jesus/God as two separate
entities."
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........Another TTer (off-Forum) said to me......
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<< The idea of two "entities" is very misleading. Two persons, yes, but
> not two entities.
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.......When I hear such comments on TT, I am led to wonder where they came up with
that thinking IF they did not get it from Protestant dogma. Furthermore, I had heard
similar sentiments outside TT, so I don't think this is an isolated belief, DavidM.
However, I do not know much about the evolution of Protestant beliefs in the past
couple hundred years. I've assumed that what was taught then, is (in this case)
commonly believed now.
I would be curious to know if most all TTers agree with the separate entities
belief. At this point.....few may want to offer their opinions. I'll ask some
Christians I know how they believe and report back.
> It seems to me that you have been misled on these
> points.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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