Your quote here was someone else
Read & check what you post.
If I am wrong go ahead tell us
Instead of answering you fall back on it is a "personal attack"
I just pointed out, what you said.
"OFFICE with COUCH"
"LISTENS to PROBLEMS"
WHO COULD THIS BE?
You did not tell me how I was wrong, you whine about personal attacks.
Are you displaying a Guilty Conscience?
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:13 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] LDS: Historical revisionists and censorers.Maybe, as I have suggested before, you need to find someone whith a couch
> >in his office, and tell him all about this problem you have. LOL
>
> Well, this is the second time you have suggested that I need clinical help.
> Iin a debate, when one of the parties begins to attack their opponent
> personally, it is a sign that they have lost the debate.
>
> Perry**Blaine: Did I suggest that you need clinical help? Well, maybe you have a point there. I will try to remember the rule from now on. But I thought I was saying you need someone else besides us poor worn out Mormons on TT to listen to your complaints against the LDS Church. A little cathartic listening is what I meant. Maybe your minister? Maybe just tell it to the wind? I know a woman who sits down each day and writes--in her own handwriting, which is important-- all of her complaints in a journal. She says it does her a lot of good, and noone else any harm. When she gets a journal full, she files it under "G" for Garbage, and starts a new journal. Sounds like it might work--I tried it once myself, and thought it was great.
Blaine stop the typical LDS BS (Belief System)If you are going to SLAM Perry, at least be Man enough to stick to it.It is so sad that we would have to argue over your obvious SLAM!Who has a couch in his "OFFICE", other than you know who?What kind of person with a office listens to people with "PROBLEM"sThen you have the nerve to think that since you did not use the Term CLINICAL you can deny it all?Truth the whole truth and nothing but the Truth, is that what are giving us?God sees it all, anything but the Truth the whole truth and nothing but is SIN!If I am wrong go ahead tell usWho has a couch in their OFFICE to hear PROBLEMSWhile your at it maybe you could answer some of the other questions you avoid.**Blaine: Is this getting personal again Kevin? Getting personal is OK for you street preachers, but not for us po, persecuted Mormons? What about this: Iin a debate, when one of the parties begins to attack their opponent
> personally, it is a sign that they have lost the debate. Maybe you should practice what you preach, huh?
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:----- Original Message -----From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:31 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] LDS: Historical revisionists and censorers.>
> >Blaine: Orwellian!! LOL You have a sinister mind to ascribe Orwellian
> >motives to the LDS Church in general, but more so with regards to Brigham
> >Young University, Perry. We are talking about a school practice here,
> >aren't we? Not a churchwide practice.
>
> Is not the school owned and run by the church?**Blaine: BYU is owned by the Church but run by the administrators of the school, who seem to have considerable lattitude in making decsions. I am pretty sure much is done there that the leaders of the Church only hear about after the fact, and I imagine much is also done that they never hear about. This is known as "delegation of authority." It would be impossible for the Church to lead BYU without it. As one Bishop told me once, when I questioned whether we ought to go ahead with a particular action in his ward without first consulting authorities, "It is sometimes easier to get forgiveness than permission." (:>) However, if something Orwellian is going on, and I seriously doubt it is, it needs to be addressed. But I would not want to be the one to raise that issue based on someone at BYU erasing tattoo images on a photo. (:>) I think they would lau! gh me out of the room.If so, then it is likely that
> this is a church endorsed practice. If the church does the same you would
> probably not know it, especially since anything you might hear about the LDS
> that is not in line with the image you have been programmed to accept, you
> deny it as a plot to discredit the church. Wake up and smell the postum.**Blaine: What is this POSTUM? If I were to respond to a wakeup call from you street preachers, would it not be waking up to the smell of . . . Coffee? (I hope I am not being presumptuous, now!) Laced with a little 90 proof Traditional Christian BS to make the day a little rosier? LOL"They are drunken, but not with wine, . . . "Nothing sinister here!! Just common sense that if you photograph and
> >publish the photo of a very popular athlete wearing obvious violations of
> >the school standards on his arm, you are publicly endorsing the violation.
>
> There is a contradiction in your very statement above, Blaine. Tell me you
> can't see it. The school recruits an athlete whose tattoos violate the
> schools standards, then tries to hide that by doctoring the photos?**Blaine: Wearing tattoos is, as far as I have been able to tell, still considered a minor infraction. They probably try not to be guilty of straining at a gnat, then swallowing an entire camel, so to speak. The BYU administration, if I read them correctly, are more concerned with major infractions, like alcohol abuse, drug abuse, fighting, pornography, womanizing, etc. Tattoos are important, but are obviousl;y not considered of major consequence. I have never heard of a BYU student getting sacked for tattoos only--but for drug abuse, and other heavy violations, yes.
>
> >Of course that makes sense to me, but maybe not to someone like yourself
> >who seems to see sinister plots and/or conspiritorial motives in everything
> >the Mormon Church does.
>
> That is what scares me...it ma! kes sense to you. I wonder if all Mormons
> blindly accept the Orwellian practices of their church and it's school as
> making sense. Now, that is a scary thought. It is this very mindset that
> allows events like the Mountain Meadows Massacre to happen. I was hoping
> that the LDS church had grown beyond that point.**Blaine: Maybe before we debate the MMM, we should first look at the depradations committed against Mormons in New York, Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois. Thousands of wrongful deaths occurred in those states, in some cases children were slaughtered. I already mentioned the Haun's Mill Massacre in a previous post, to which noone replied. I am still waiting for a reply. If you are willing to do that, maybe we can debate on the subject of the MMM. I would not mind doing so, actually.> >Maybe, as I have suggested before, you need to find someone whith a couch
> >in his office, and tell him all about this problem you have. LOL
>
> Well, this is the second time you have suggested that I need clinical help.
> Iin a debate, when one of the parties begins to attack their opponent
> personally, it is a sign that they have lost the debate.
>
> Perry**Blaine: Did I suggest that you need clinical help? Well, maybe you have a point there. I will try to remember the rule from now on. But I thought I was saying you need someone else besides us poor worn out Mormons on TT to listen to your complaints against the LDS Church. A little cathartic listening is what I meant. Maybe your minister? Maybe just tell it to the wind? I know a woman who sits down each day and writes--in her own handwriting, which is important-- all of her complaints in a journal. She says it does her a lot of good, and noone else any harm. When she gets a journal full, she files it under "G" for Garbage, and starts a new journal. Sounds like it might work--I tried it once myself, and thought it was great.
>
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