Blaine: Hmm, I understand what you are saying Perry, and I sense your frustration. Maybe we have really been throwing you guys some curves, it sounds like. LOL But, we do not deliberately mislead, and that is my point. We tell others whatever they really really want to know--but do not tell them what they want to hear, necessarily, as you seem to think we do. We do have a message, and if it is not digestible now, we hope it will be later when you guys get a little further along the path of eternal progression. We love you guys, so we may try to insure that what we send out does not overload the spiritual preparedmess that you bring to the situation. New truths are always hard to digest anyway, so we don't want to make them any harder than necessary. Eternal progression is essentially a process of moving from one horizon to a higher one, ad infinitum. If you try to push to the higher level before you are ready to fully appreciate what it has in store for you, you may just end up aborting the entire process. That is what we often see happening on TT, unfortunately, as some individuals push to try to understand the higher level without first fully understanding the principles upon which that level is built. We try very hard to build that foundation of understanding but receive a lot of resistence in the process. May I suggest again that if you exercise faith even to a small degree, called belief, as the grain of a mustard seed, the truth will then take root in you and will grow--but if you resist the truths we try to convey to you, you will naturally never get to the point of understanding you need to be at in order to receive the higher truths, which both Dave and I understand as far as they have been revealed to us at this time. That is not to say we ourselves know all and are all wise--we just have achieved most of the understanding that God has allowed for us to know for now, and he has assured us that is sufficient for his grace to operate. I personally believe knowledge and understanding are the keys to the Kingdom of God, and without it, noone can either function in that Kingdom or even fully appreciate it. But to gain the knowledge that is needed, one must constantly pray and exercise faith in the Lord Jesus Christ--and that faith will give us hope, and that hope will enlarge the soul without hypocrisy, unto the perfect day when we will know as we are known and see as we are seen. But the key is understanding, and that as you undoubtedly already know, is built level by level, or as the Lord would say, grace for grace. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] ad hominem rule
> Blaine, > > Yes. Either that, or you both are extremely naive. For example, DavidH > said that he believes non-Mormons can go to heaven. I feel confident that he > knows that Christians believe there is one place called heaven, and LDS > believe there are three. He did not point this out...and since non-Mormons > go to a different LDS heaven than Mormons, in this sense he was > intentionally misleading TT'rs who may not know that LDS consider there to > be three heavens. The effect is to appear to agree with Christians, while > secretly having a hidden meaning that you are using. I do not think that > either you or DaveH are naive enough to not know what is going on. > > When missionaries do this, I can find room to excuse them, because I > believe they may be naive. But, when seasoned LDS apologists like yourselves > who hang out with Christians do it, you are intentionally "not telling the > whole story". > > Perry > > >From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "TT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [TruthTalk] ad hominem rule > >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:09:04 -0700 > > > >Perry wrote: > > I do not want Christians who > > > > do not know the LDS meanings to be mislead into thinking that the > > >Mormons > > > > think or believe the same way Christians do. Call me protective, but I > > >feel > > > > it is my duty, if I know that someone is being mislead by words, to > > >correct > > > > that. You certainly aren't going to tell them that you mean something > > > > different. > > > >Blaine wrote: Are you saying either DaveH or I deliberately mislead? You > >seem to be implying this in some of your posts, and particularly this one. > >In fact, this post seems to be a thinly veiled attack on the character of > >Mormons in general, and since we are the only two Mormons on TT to read > >your posts, an attack on us personally? I sense you are getting tired of > >having to account for what you write, but one more answer is due here, it > >appears. Yes, I am putting you on the spot, in light of the ad hominem > >rule of TT. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! > http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
