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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Catholic
priests/child abuse victims
husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot
or unruly." (Titus 1:5-6 KJV)
Joe is disqualified on two counts here. More than 1 wife & more than 1
riot!
1826 Warrant on Joseph Smith the "Glasslooker" for " disorderly person and
an imposture"
Blaine: See my comments to
DaveM
1843 Warrants issued for the attempted assasination of the Governor of
Missouri. Orin Porter Rockwell for assault with intent to kill, and Smith for
being an accessory "before the fact."
Blaine:
The charge against Rockwell (a cousin of JS, by the way) of attempting to
kill governor Boggs, who had issued an extermination order against all
Mormons, was never proven. As Rockwell said, "if I had done
it, I would have succeeded." He was a dead shot, and seldom known to miss his man. He
wore a long beard and his hair long, and had been promised by JS that as
long as he never cut his hair, he would never be killed by his enemies.
He outlived the prophet, and was a mainstay for law and order in Utah.
He was shot at innumerable times, mostly by outlaws--like as in thieves,
robbers, murderers, etc. While JS was alive, Rockwell served as
his bodyguard. If fair had been fair, they would never have gotten to JS
to kill him. They had to trump up charges to have Joseph arrested
and away from Rockwell, whom they feared. But they also knew JS was a
law abiding man and would submit to arrest. It was a conspiriacy from
start to finish.
Both were indicted and a warrant from Governor Carlin of Missouri issued
for Smith's arrest as a fugitive from the law in Missouri.
Blaine: The Missourians were not exactly
a respectable bunch themselves. The governor's illegal extermination
order was in opposition to constitutional law, as well as Missouri law.
He did it to pacify the mobs in much the same spirit as Pontius Pilate agreed
to crucify Jesus to pacify the Pharisee-led mob.
In 1844 a warrant was issued for Joe the mayor of Nauvoo, he was later
arrested on a charge of Treason
Blaine: A trumped up charge to get him in jail,
where he could be the more easily murdered.
and taken to Carthage Jail.
When the jail was stormed Joe shot & killed 1 wounded a second, with a
smuggled gun.
Blaine: Wow! What a
rascal! He tried to defend himself!! He threw a
real curve on that mob, having his own gun! How unfair of him! It
wasn't as if he was naive and didn't know what was happening with the
mob. Besides smuggling the two guns he used against
the mob, his friends kept him informed as to what the mobs were doing, as well
as what else was happening. He very well knew what he was up
against. He should have had an automatic rifle, considering the
circumstances. LOL
Consider also Joe's violent character.
David Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine wrote:
> For this reason, I still firmly believe Jesus
> Christ was married, and that this fact--that
> he was
married-- has, along with the sexual
> molestation of children, been
covered up for
> centuries by the RCC.
The RCC acknowledges
that their celibacy doctrine concerning the
priesthood did not mature
until about the fourth century. If there was
any "cover up," I think they
would try to push the origin of the
doctrine back to the time of
Christ.
If Jesus was married, would we not have some record of it?
With all the
details of the gospels, why would his wife be
unacknowledged?
Blaine wrote:
> I cannot believe
He--Jesus--would implement a
> doctrine either by example or word,
that would
> end up being so disastrous!!
Jesus never
implemented the doctrine of forced celiba! cy practiced in the
Roman
Catholic Church. Read what Jesus himself taught on the matter:
"His
disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife,
it is
not good to marry. But he said unto them, ALL MEN CANNOT RECEIVE
THIS
SAYING, SAVE THEY TO WHOM IT IS GIVEN. For there are some eunuchs,
which
were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs,
which
were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have
made
themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able
to
receive it, let him receive it." (Matthew 19:10-12 KJV)
It
makes common sense that certain kinds of ministry is best done by a
man
who does not have a wife and family. Other types of ministry
require a
man to be married.
"For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou
shouldest set in order
the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in
every city, as I had
appointed thee: If any be blameless, the husband of
o! ne wife, having
faithful children not accused of riot or unruly."
(Titus 1:5-6 KJV)
Joseph Smith failed on this qualification of an
elder, even though your
Scriptures repeatedly call him an elder, even
"first elder" and
"presiding elder" (see D&C 20:2, 21:1, 124:125).
Why have you neglected
hearing this passage of Scripture (Titus 1:5-6) so
that you might keep
your Mormonism?
Peace be with you.
David
Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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