In a message dated 3/11/2004 12:36:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


......From this, cannot one conclude that those filled with the Holy Spirit of God are OF GOD, and capable of seeing God?  Do you disagree, John?


Hello DAVEL :   I am not sure why this is important to you.   Can we see God with the physical eye?   ---   only when he manifests Himself to us in some form whether it be a pillar of fire, a burning bush, a spiritual indwelling or in the form of some human.   By the say, I am not a Protestant.   I see value in the appropriation of first century faith and values   --  unlike you, I suppose, I do not believe those values were ever lost.   I say that to say this:  whatever conclusion we draw, we (or I) must do so without deleting the instructional - yea I say revelatory -- value of a given passage of the biblical text.   The apostle's conclusion ( no man hath see God at any time ) must remain a truth.   I try not to use scripture to defeat scripture.   

I Cor 2 teaches us that those with the Spirit of God have the ability to understand God.   Understanding is much more the important matter.    


John


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