[TruthTalk] Education - Is it evil?

[Judy Taylor]

Billt: Judy, So when saying you agree with DavidM, you do not really mean you agree with his use of the term Christian perfection. Is that what I should understand you to be saying?   jt: I don't really understand the outworking of what DavidM believes, I thought he was talking about sanctification/holiness from scripture rather than from John Wesley.   Billt: Because I don't think we have to wallow in the mud either.   jt: Glad to hear this, however most Christians I've been in contact with are not living overcoming lives especially in their thought lives.   I do think there is less deceptive ways of saying that than with the language of "Christian perfection"; because "perfection" implies perfection, doesn't it?   jt: I wouldn't exactly call it deceptive because after all scripture does use the same language ie "Be ye holy (perfect) for I am holy"  I understand this means mature so I have no problem with the word.   Do you know what I mean? You don't really expect to be functionally perfect on this side of death, do you?   jt: My goal is spiritual maturity so that I am able to walk consistently in God's blessings and I do believe this is attainable on this side of death.  jt         Billt: Judy, Allow me to expand a little bit. Maybe this will help me to understand the term.  Judy says  All truth is not positive and all error is not negative - and noone has arrived that I know of so far. Judy, how does this statement jive with your Christian perfectionism? Doesn't the idea of perfection necessitate arrival?  Bill Taylor   jt: No it does not. Salvation is present progressive. We should be headed in that direction however.  We have a sacrifice and a throne of grace to go to in time of need.  So why wallow in the mud.  jt.       Judy says     All truth is not positive and all error is not negative - and noone has arrived that I know of so far.   Billt: Judy, how does this statement jive with your Christian perfectionism?   jt: I'm not sure what you perceive to be my "Christian pefectionism" Bill. I don't think it is positive or fun to look in the mirror (of His Word) some days and it hurts to be pruned.  It's not all joy when I find I have been deceived in some area and need to repent.  Satan comes as an angel of light and can say some mighty smooth and good sounding things.   Tell me about my "Christian perfectionism" Billt,  jt