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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:28
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Hyperbole
Kay was not offended by your post, Judy, so it's ok. I am not
offended by your post either. I would like to demonstrate to you where the
problem lies.
Example One: The US court system made it legal to perform abortions. In
recent months, it is legal for doctors to perform abortion on teenage girls
and to prescribe abortifascient pills and condoms to teenagers without
parental consent. This means US citizens support abortion. While you will be
quick to clarify that not ALL citizens of the US support abortion, I would be
just as quick to defend the Jewish people in that they HAVE historically kept
the Law of Moses... That's what KEPT THEM ALIVE these millennia when
Christianity has attempted to exterminate them... repeatedly! To this day the
Words are true: they kept the oracles of God (Romans 3). To claim that Jewish
people have not [historically] kept the Law of Moses is just as false as to
say that the Jewish people keep the Law for salvation reasons. Let me ask you
a question: WHY would a group of people "chosen by God" keep the Law in order
to be saved? They're the chosen people... they are ALREADY saved! They place
their FAITH on the fact!!! They LOVE GOD and that motivates [most of] them to
keep the Torah (some keep it to be culturally correct).
Example Two: With the release of "The Passion," the question rises once
again... "Did the Jews Kill Jesus?" Surprisingly, the overwhelming response to
that question is "Yes." To those who answered "Yes," I ask, "Are you sinless
as to not have participated in Jesus's need to die?"
Please pardon the "hyperbole," but what kind of question is "do you believe the Holy Spirit is also Jewish?" Do
you believe Jesus is and the Spirit is not? Do you believe neither are? What
about "The Father?"
I
have another question: Do you believe the Jewish People need this special
"breath from Jesus" in order to understand the Scriptures? Do Gentiles need
that same breath, or are the Jewish people "so thick" that ONLY THEY need this
extra help from Jesus?
You
claimed the the Jewish People rejected their own Messiah? I'm sure you realize
Jewish men wrote the "New" Testament and current leaders within the Messianic
Jewish movement believe up to 40% of Jewish people during the Second
Commonwealth believed Yeshua was the Promised Messiah. This helps explain why
there was such a fervor against them by the leadership of the 60%. Can you say
40% of Gentiles accept Jesus as their Messiah and are TRUE believers? If you
can't make that claim, then the Gentiles have rejected Jesus FAR MORE than the
Jewish people.
We
need to be careful not to box people into groups that are too broad. This can
hurt people feelings and your goal (the proliferation of the Good News) will
suffer from it. My goal is to see ALL of Israel saved, but that's not going to
happen if we box the Jewish people in too tight. Give them the room to be
individuals ('cuz they are) and allow the reality that MANY keep the Law
of Moses and the love God with all their heart... just like the
Gentiles are individualistic and not all Gentiles support and perform
abortions on their teenage girls.
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slade
