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That is a common interpretation, Slade, one which
gets rid of the threat to us today. There are many commentators who embrace it;
however, as with all interpretative matters, there are many also who do
not.
Thanks for your input.
Bill
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I
have a bit of a question. I know the average commentator will say that
blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is some thing humans can do now - today. The
person in green below (Bill, I think) claims Hebrews speaks of it
as a trampling underfoot the Son of
God. What if the definition is considerably more... confined?
If I may, please read the following passage:
The Scribes [...] were saying, "He is possessed
by Baalzibbul," and "He casts out the demons by the rulers of the
demons."
And [Yeshua] called them to Himself and began
speaking to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan? If a
kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house will not
be able to stand. If Satan has risen up
against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is
finished! But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his
property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his
house.
"Truly I say to you, all
sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they
utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has
forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"
(because they were saying, 'He has an unclean
spirit.')
Please pay close attention to the last sentence of Marcus 3:22-30.
Yeshua tells us what blasphemy against the Spirit of the Holy One is. Now my
question... Is this kind of sin that can be committed only by those who SEE
THE MIRACLES OF YESHUA AND CLAIM THEY ARE DONE BY HASATAN?
-- slade
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Bill: I'm
not real sure where the problem is on this one, Izzy. But I will give it a
shot. There is in Scripture the mention (in various ways) of an unpardonable
sin, a sin for which there is no forgiveness. In Mark 3 Jesus identifies it
as the blasphemy of the Holy Sprit.* The preacher to the Hebrews calls it a
trampling underfoot the Son of God.** Peter says it is a denial or refusal
of the Lord who redeemed us.*** And John refers to it as the sin which leads
to death.**** All of these occurrences (and there are others) have
at their source a conflict between the person of Christ and some
faction or another of religious leaders, men (or women, if we are speaking
in terms of today) who claim a stature or position of knowledge
and authority. In each case these are men who blatantly reject
Jesus Christ -- they are called "false prophets"; certain ones of them
are "Pharisees"; they are "anti-christs," "deceivers," "wolves in
sheep's clothing." And in each case there is a blatant refusal to
accept Jesus as who he claims or is claimed to be. And so,
the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is described in each of these
instances, is, I believe, a refusal on the part of humans, and
especially any who hold positions of religious influence over other
people, to receive the convicting witness and testimony and call of the
Holy Spirit as to the truth of Jesus Christ, his salvific act, his personal
and corporate identity, and/or his divine nature. These are those
to whom I believe Christ was referring when he said he will say:
"Away from me, I never knew you" (I must also add that I believe until a
person, even one of these really rotten ones, takes his or
her last breath, there is still time to repent. Nevertheless, John
seems to indicate that at some point a person can become so hardened, after
so many wonderful but squandered opportunities, that he will not and
perhaps can not repent. See cf. 1 Joh 5 -- "I do not ask that [you] pray for
[the one who commits the sin which leads to death]").
Bill
the scripture that I quoted above did not refer to blasphemy of the Holy
Spirit. Jesus said,
�unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.� How much more
clearly can He state it? Can you admit that refusal to repent of sin IS a
rejection of Jesus? Can we agree on
that?
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