I didn't realize this interpretation removed any threat. Is that why I interpret the passage this way? If you'd be so kind, which is the correct contextual interpretation and why?
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That is a common interpretation, Slade, one which gets rid of the threat to us today. There are many commentators who embrace it; however, as with all interpretative matters, there are many also who do not.
 
Thanks for your input.
 
Bill
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I have a bit of a question. I know the average commentator will say that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is some thing humans can do now - today. The person in green below (Bill, I think) claims Hebrews speaks of it as a trampling underfoot the Son of God. What if the definition is considerably more... confined? If I may, please read the following passage:
   The Scribes [...] were saying, "He is possessed by Baalzibbul," and "He casts out the demons by the rulers of the demons."
   And [Yeshua] called them to Himself and began speaking to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. If Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished! But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.
   "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (because they were saying, 'He has an unclean spirit.')
Please pay close attention to the last sentence of Marcus 3:22-30. Yeshua tells us what blasphemy against the Spirit of the Holy One is. Now my question... Is this kind of sin that can be committed only by those who SEE THE MIRACLES OF YESHUA AND CLAIM THEY ARE DONE BY HASATAN?
 
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Bill: I'm not real sure where the problem is on this one, Izzy. But I will give it a shot. There is in Scripture the mention (in various ways) of an unpardonable sin, a sin for which there is no forgiveness. In Mark 3 Jesus identifies it as the blasphemy of the Holy Sprit.* The preacher to the Hebrews calls it a trampling underfoot the Son of God.** Peter says it is a denial or refusal of the Lord who redeemed us.*** And John refers to it as the sin which leads to death.**** All of these occurrences (and there are others) have at their source a conflict between the person of Christ and some faction or another of religious leaders, men (or women, if we are speaking in terms of today) who claim a stature or position of knowledge and authority. In each case these are men who blatantly reject Jesus Christ -- they are called "false prophets"; certain ones of them are "Pharisees"; they are "anti-christs," "deceivers," "wolves in sheep's clothing." And in each case there is a blatant refusal to accept Jesus as who he claims or is claimed to be. And so, the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is described in each of these instances, is, I believe, a refusal on the part of humans, and especially any who hold positions of religious influence over other people, to receive the convicting witness and testimony and call of the Holy Spirit as to the truth of Jesus Christ, his salvific act, his personal and corporate identity, and/or his divine nature. These are those to whom I believe Christ was referring when he said he will say: "Away from me, I never knew you" (I must also add that I believe until a person, even one of these really rotten ones, takes his or her last breath, there is still time to repent. Nevertheless, John seems to indicate that at some point a person can become so hardened, after so many wonderful but squandered opportunities, that he will not and perhaps can not repent. See cf. 1 Joh 5 -- "I do not ask that [you] pray for [the one who commits the sin which leads to death]").

Bill the scripture that I quoted above did not refer to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.  Jesus said, unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.� How much more clearly can He state it? Can you admit that refusal to repent of sin IS a rejection of Jesus? Can we agree on that?

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