Strike One:
Interpretation of Scripture
mano-a-pneuma, sans Intelligencian
Interference
This allows the person to "feel" the proper
interpretation as he reads the text. By using English-language concordances,
he can produce correlations between text across the Older-Newer Testament
boundary page to create proper interpretations. What doesn't fit, then, (1) is
fit into the Newer-overshadows-and-supercedes-the-Older category without a
second thought; (2) is called the interpretation of the Holy Spirit, which
cannot be brought into question without charges akin to blasphemy because
the Holy Spirit is never wrong. Now, not all use both parts of the last step,
but it's always nice to possess the trump card just in case someone asks a
question regarding grammar, cultural, or historical
context.
I don't know where you are at Slade.... Please come back to
earth. The above has nothing to do with me or with the Spirit of God. I am not
into "touchy feelies" or "feelings" What you describe here is more
along the lines of psychobabble. I have a friend who was diagnosed manic
depressive and her counsellor had her into identifying feelings and all that
goes with it. Neither am I against "testing and trying the spirits to see
if they are of God. This should be done in every assembley where the spiritual
giftings are manifest. So forget about a "trump card" - It's either
God or it's divination and I certainly want no part of
that.
Strike Two:
Faulty Foundation For Hermeneutics
Historical, Cultural, and Grammatical considerations
are a waste of time for someone who interpret Scripture with the
English-language Bible and the Spirit because the 1st-Century believers never
haggled over cultural differences, mindset variances, and historical contexts.
Never should we consider that these conflicts existed
between Sadducees/Hellenists and the Pharisees/common-folk. We also
should not consider that the majority of Judeans shared these values and
thought processes. Also, people nowadays have no
need to be taught by men because we have the Spirit to lead us in all
truth. Checks and balances are no longer needed because the Spirit has no
problem communicating with/through all of these apparent language/culture
barriers.
I don't know what
difference all that makes Slade. Sure there are traditions everywhere
but they make the Word of God of no effect in the lives of people. Jesus
said so. In my opinion the checks and balances that were put in place by the
RCC and other disciplines have been more of a hindrance than anything. I
like the counsel given by the elders in Jerusalem in Acts 15. along with
reading and studying God's Law and under shepherds after God's own heart
who lead the people with knowledge and
understanding.
Strike Three:
Compartmentalization
When we use the Spirit strictly as our interpreter
we, of course are not compartmentalizing. We also are not compartmentalizing
when we say that book learning is the bane of Spirit-led
study. We state things like "spirit-led interpretations are alive,
vibrant, full of color, and are valuable and good" and "intellectual studies
are dry, lifeless, and less desirable." Surely this is not compartmentalizing.
Living for the world to come instead of the world that is here is not
compartmentalizing. Neither is viewing the spiritualization of the text as far
more valuable than a plain-sense understanding of the text. Nowhere in
Scripture does God say to His people, "Let us REASON together," but ,"Let us FEEL the meaning
together."
The Apostles are unlearned men who had to rely
strictly on the Spirit for interpretation and that we need to all fall under
their example. Far be it to determine via the historical context that all Jewish men learned the whole of Torah (Genesis through
Deuteronomy) by heart and many had the whole of the Tanakh (the Older
Testament) memorized by the time they were considered men. In order to
get a "passing grade" from their teacher, the talmidim (disciples) had to
memorize the teachings of their Rabbi verbatim. It was not "kosher" for the
Rabbi's immediate disciples to write their teacher's sayings down. The second-generation disciples, on the other hand, could write
the sayings, explaining why the texts we have of the Newer Testament do
not date to Yeshua's lifetime.
I've never stated any of the above Slade, these are
your words and your thoughts. Have I ever said you should "FEEL" the meaning?
This is what happens when you try to card file people ie: fit them into
something you have either studied or observed and believe you have a
handle on. I am not against books or into following
spirits.
I also have a hard time with some of what you write
above. If the disciples had memorized the whole Torah then how come the
Saducees took note that they were "ignorant and unlearned men?" (Acts
4:13). As for writing everything down Jesus himself told them that when
they had to stand before government leaders and kings that the Holy Spirit
would bring to their remembrance what they should speak in that hour
(this is how He works) He is not a "feeling".
Using only the
Spirit and your Bible, please answer some or all of these questions. (I will
know if you cheat!).....
Does Yeshua have a sense of humor? Please defend your
stand.
I wouldn't say I had a stand on this. I don't see
Jesus as one who uses hype, humor, sarcasm or any of that - I see him as
someone walking in love who spoke the truth to people and some were
offended.
Why did Yeshua tell the Sadducees they didn't know
Scripture?
Because they had no understanding, they were well
versed in the letter only.
What does "Kingdom of Heaven" and
"Kingdom of God" mean?
God's Kingdom which has nothing to do with meat and
drink or any earthly pursuit, it is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy
Spirit.
What does John 1:18 and Luke 10:22
mean?
Noone besides Jesus has ever seen God and God has
committed all things to the Son
Why were the people astonished in Luke 4:36? "And
they were all amazed, and spoke among themselves, saying, What a
word this! for with authority and power he
commanded the unclean spirits, and they come out."
Because the words of the religious leaders were
without power; they had a form of godliness only and when the people saw the
power of God manifesting through the words of Jesus they knew he was
different.
Who/What are the good fish and the bad fish (for
ease, check out Matthew 13:47-50)?
The good fish are the righteous and the bad fish are
the wicked.
Refer to the genealogy of Yeshua in Matt 1. Please
read verse 17 and verify its accuracy. Please explain any anomalies you
discover.
I've never checked these out Slade, are you going to
tell me that they are inaccurate?
What language was the "home," "usual," or "preferred"
language of Yeshua?
I understand he spoke Aramaic which was
considered to be the common language..
What is the Torah Teacher trying to accomplish when
it says, "And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up,
and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" (Luke 10:25)
Probably trying to justify himself but Jesus' answer
in the form of a parable showed the hypocrisy in their attitude toward the
Samaritans when the priest and the levite passed by and would not help the man
who had been mugged and robbed but the Samaritan when the extra mile with
him..
What's going on in Matt 21:43?
God expects a proper return on his investment so when
he does not find the right kind of fruit in his vineyard he will destroy and
start over.
How about Matthew 11:12?
The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence and will until
the Lord returns. This is why we are to put on the whole armour of God so that
we can stand (rather than be passive) and also take it back by
force.
What is/are dichotomy(-ies) in the events of Luke
4:21-30?
The prophecy in Isaiah was being fulfilled as Jesus
began his Messianic ministry.
What does Yeshua mean when He says, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be
persuaded, though one rises from the dead?"
(Luke 16:31)
Because miracles don't save people; God's anointing
rests upon His Word and it is the Holy Spirit working with God's Word that
persuades people to commit their lives to Christ allowing Him to be their
Savior and Lord.
Where does one find more grace -- the Older Testament
or the Newer? Why?
All of God's Word is good and Jesus is the same
yesterday, today, and forever but the covenant has changed.
What is so funny about Luke 11:5-10 and Luke
18:2-8?
I don't see anything funny about wanting bread at
midnight and the widow with the unjust judge. To me both stories teach
persistence and faith that God will take care of things no matter how it looks
if our faith does not fail.
What is the significance of Luke
2:49?
To me the significance has always been the
understanding Jesus had at age 12 but then he was full of the Holy Spirit
so that should not be surprising.
By the way, I may need to clarify a thing or two for
you, Judy, and Izzy. I may disagree with points of context, but I view these
merely as points of disagreement. I intend to belittle no one and I appreciate
not being belittled in the process. Please do not receive any sarcasm as a
personal attack. Yeshua used sarcasm and hyperbole to get points across at
times and I do the same... at times. Straight teaching or communicating a
point sometimes is not effective and I can admit to having very little success
getting my point across to you and apparently I'm having difficulty with Izzy
(unless I simply pushed her over the edge and she's cranky at me).
--
slade
No problem Slade... glad to oblige
here.
