Re: [TruthTalk] Judy's Plagiarism

[Knpraise]

In a message dated 12/28/2004 12:16:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

None of us want you to be in the position you are in Judy.  We all want to see you move beyond it to healing.

I have just started my morning pilgrimage and this was first on the agenda.   I want to make myself crystal clear about "disagreement" here on TT.   I love it.   Iron sharpens iron is a good thing.    If I wrote, and you all did nothing but agree, I would, someday, become an atheist  ..................   not a joke in this case.    Think about it.  What keeps us on track if not the continual comparision of ides   --    of course this only works for those who honest with themself.    Where do thinking Christians go to share their ideas and affirm/amend their thinking?   I doubt seriously that anyone on this forum would argue the point when I answer that question with "Certianly not at church."   The one thing we all have in common is the fact that we are all thinkers.   Sad to say, it no longer appears that fellowship in Christ is the commonality, but thinking is a good second place finisher.  

That brings me to this observation:  all that is needed to initiate the fires of bitter disagreement is a challenge to the integrity of those who write against us.   You stress the point that my comments border on the blasphemus, that I think the way I do because of my spiritual blindness,  that one might move to expell me from the larger Body of Christ, that I am dishonest, that I cannot and do not think for myself and so on ad infinitum,  and I will fight back    ---    sooner or later.    When I do give in to the fight,  I, without question, cross the line as drastically as any on this forum.   There is in the mind of the "respondent," a sudden desire to give others a taste of their own medicine. We all do this.

Speaking for myself,  when I do cross the line, I eventually am convicted by the Spirit that is within me.   Proof of this was my use of "ignorant" against Linda.   I came back with a retraction/apology fairly quickly  --  not because of Linda's complaint but because of my personal realtionship with God in Christ.  

With (esp)  Judy and David,  it is not the disagreement that gets to me.   It is what is presented above.   These two simply cannot or will not disagree without expressing their judgments concerning ones character or the character of those who contribute (Kruger, Torrence, Bonhoefffer) as if any of that analysis has anything to do with the ideas themselves being debated.     That is my only aggravation with this forum.  

Judy's debate is fine.   Her judgmentalism is not.   And the hypocricy comes when one who as guilty as ANY of us pretends that they are not.   

Whatever

John