DAVEH says: To me to not define
Christian leaves it pretty much in the air
We can have all the definitions we want.
If I asked you how WIDE is my driveway, you may say 7 feet, I
might say 8 feet Judy may say 9 feet
Until we get the RULER out we can have all the OPINIONS we want.
There is ONLY ONE STANDARD of measurement the RULER.
It will settle all doubt. It is and sets the STANDARD.
Anything else or any other persons input is just an Opinion
None of us is the STANDARD.
In the case of Mormonism the SUPREME STANDARD is set by the
GENERAL AUTHORITIES and in particular, the PROPHET (FOLLOW FOLLOW
FOLLOW)
ONLY the general Authorities have the ability to define
"Mormonism"
They say you have NO RIGHT to determine anything apart from what
the PROPHETS have already said on a topic.
When they point the way it is supposed to clear it all up, it
should MARK the END of Controversy!
That is the WHOLE POINT of having a Prophet.
How else can we know, which is the way?
You seem to FOLLOW the PROPHET SOME of the TIME
Mormons claim FOLLOW the PROPHET.
You don't why should we?
Did you not PROMISE to sustain the Prophet in ALL THINGS? or
just some?
REMEMBER God will do nothing without revealing it to you know
who.
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he
revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." Amos
3:7
I thought Mormons believed that God ALWAYS lead his people
through prophets, not through debate, councils or individuals outside
the Authorities.
How do you determine just WHEN to FOLLOW the PROPHET?
What STANDARD do you use?
Your Opinions?
Opinions of others?
Your FEELINGS?
Personal Revelation?
What if your REVELATION contradicts The PROPHETS REVELATION?
some from column A some from column B?
Flip a coin?
Really, just how do you determine?
I suspect your definition is Very BROAD you might need to NARROW
it down some.
Still waiting on your Opinion about what is "Mormon"
Still in the AIR !
" Have we not a right to make up our minds in
relation to the things recorded in the word of God, and speak about
them, whether the living oracles believe our views or not? We have not
the right...God placed Joseph Smith at the head of this church; God has
likewise placed Brigham Young at the head of this church; and he has
required you and me, male and female, to sustain those
authorities placed over us in all things, and receive their
words as from the mouth of God..." - Orson Pratt, Apostle,
Journal of Discourses 7:374-375, Sermon January 29, 1860
" When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they
propose a plan - it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no
other way that is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the
end of controversy." - Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354
" God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the Children of
Israel, and he made me to be god to you in His stead, and the Elders to
be the mouth for me; and if you don't like it, you must lump it." - Joseph
Fielding Smith, Teaching of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 363
"...learn to do as you are told,...if you are told by your leader
to do a thing, do it, none of your business whether it is right or
wrong." - Herber C. Kimball, 1st Counselor to Brigham Young.
Journal of Discourses, v.2, p.106
Dave
Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Judy Taylor wrote:
Well there is the broad road and the
narrow way - everyone is on one or the other but only one of them will
lead to life. Defining what the word
Christian means is neither here nor there. jt
DAVEH: ??? I don't quite follow your thinking on that one, Judy. I
would think defining one's goals would assist in reaching them. If one
doesn't know what defines a Christian, then how can one be one? For
instance....If a person of a specific sect (e.g.....Holy Rollers) says
that to be a Christian, one has to join the HR movement.....then that
would define it for that person in a specific way. One can then have
the opinion that to become a Christian, he could sign up for HR and
meet that criteria. Yet another person would probably define being
Christian in another way that meets a different criteria.
To me to no t define Christian leaves it pretty much in the air.
Can a person who does not have a definition for Christian really be a
Christian? Just thinking out loud on this....go easy on me! :-) .
