Judy wrote:
> I disagree with your assessment that Gary's
> comment was similar to mine. For one thing
> I don't ever enquire of Gary; but Lance was
> pondering this question and I did not reply in
> jest (sorry that it sounded that way).

Ok, you make a good point here.  Your response was solicited by Lance, 
whereas Gary's comment was not solicited by inquiry, but rather it was 
offered perhaps with the motive of expressing contempt.  The problem is that 
we really can't judge his motives, so perhaps we should just give him the 
benefit of the doubt, even though his post was not solicited by you.

Judy wrote:
> I sincerely believe that holding to this cosmic incarnation
> belief that he has spoken of is similar to being stuck in
> an expanded kind of "positional truth" which when not
> walked out daily becomes static - a doctrine by which
> one will never be conformed to the image of Christ or
> overcome.

Then a less personal expression would be something like, "from my 
perspective, a person who embraces this cosmic incarnation belief will get 
stuck in a time warp...," and continue with the rest of what you said.  I 
really don't like curbing the freedom of people to express themselves in 
their own way, so I certainly am not putting this on you in this particular 
case, but we should recognize that when we make posts personal, people often 
respond in a personal way back, and this is what causes a thread to lose 
focus on the original topic and degrade into a boxing match between two 
people.  That gets rather boring for the rest of the list, or even worse, 
distasteful.  So, why not just try and be as impersonal as we can in our 
speech here?  Instead of saying, "YOU..." say "This doctrine has such and 
such effect"?

Judy wrote:
> If you David do (as you say) believe 1 Corinthians
> 2:16 as well as 2 Corinthians 5:17 - then stereotyping
> someone the way Gary has done is a contradiction.

I think you are still missing the point he was trying to make.  In higher 
levels of education, people READ other scholars.  If a person rejects 
reading the other scholars, that person is attempting to stay at a lower 
level of education.  That may not be bad.  Smith Wigglesworth was a man of 
God that I highly respect, and he never read any book but the Bible.  And 
furthermore, if we accept Gary's assessment about your educational level, 
then my perspective toward him would be, why don't you take it a little 
easier on the person who you recognize does not have the educational 
background that you have.  Those who beat up intellectually upon others less 
educated than them are in my opinion, intellectual bullies.

By the way, Judy, what is your educational level?  Have you graduated from 
high school?  Any college?  Any post graduate degrees?

Judy wrote:
> ... what I take exception to is giving the voice of man
> (read theologians and church fathers) more authority
> than God's Word.

I agree.  Good point.

Judy wrote:
> The KJV Bible is written two grades higher than Gary
> gives me credit for. It is on a 10th Grade level ...

Actually, it depends upon what studies you look at, and what year the study 
was done.  The Flesch-Kincaid formula assigns a 5th grade (11 year old) 
reading level.  See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Bible

If we take this study, then Gary was being gracious and giving you three 
grades higher than your favorite book. :-)

Judy wrote:
> ... but this should not make one whit of a difference
> to the spiritually minded since God is prone to hide
> things from the wise and prudent only to reveal them
> to babes.

Excellent point!

Not many wise and noble are called.

Isn't the Holy Spirit wonderful?  The Lord can take an idiot fisherman with 
a sixth grade education, fill him with the Holy Ghost, and make him more 
knowledgeable and more wise than a man with ten Ph.D.'s.  Our God is 
wonderful and has a fine sense of humor.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 


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