Re: [TruthTalk] Whatever It Would Take

[Terry Clifton]

Bill Taylor wrote: What if we use the word "redeemed" instead of the word "adopted"?  In your opinion, would that make a difference? Terry   Hi Terry,   Yes, I do think it would make a difference if we use the word redeem instead of adoption. But I'm not sure why you are asking this question; I think I am probably misunderstanding your intent. Redeemed is what we are as a result of what Jesus has done in our place and on our behalf. But Redemption comes only as a result of the fall. I do not think we would need to have been redeemed were it not for sin and death, both having been introduced by the fall.   Are you suggesting that God created us in order that he might redeem us?   Help!   Bill  ================================================= No, not suggesting that at all.  God did not plan for the fall.  Had He done so, there would have been no sin on Adam's part because, being compelled to follow the plan, he would have had no free will to sin.  Adam made his own choice to disobey God, and as his heirs, we inherit the punishment (death) for that sin that Adam willingly committed. Though either term could accurately be used, I simply think of my Savior more as my redeemer than as an adopter.  I wondered how you saw it.  I believe that the fall was not necessary for adoption, but a redeemer was necessary because of the fall. Terry