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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

> Bill wrote:
> > Please do not assume to know something which
> > you have not yet come to understand.
>
> Well, tell me a little more about what you are talking about.  What you have
> shared sounds exactly like the way the church taught me to share my faith.
> I call it friendship evangelism.  I would make friends with people, develop
> relationships, invite them to Bible studies, etc.  Outreach consisted of
> establishing Bible studies on campus or in homes where people could be
> invited.  Are you talking about something very different from this?
 
BT:   The only thing I've ever heard about this approach is what you've shared here on TT. I don't approach evangelism programatically -- that's too structured for my liking. What I do is take people seriously; if it matters to them, it is important enough for me to care about. My greatest ministry has been to fatherless boys, tough kids, mainly wrestlers, who think that to show the least sign of weakness is to be an utter failure. I am very physical with these kids. I have learned from my wife, who is a hairdresser, that if you want people to open up, all you have to do is touch them -- appropriately of course -- and they will almost immediately let down their guard and begin to talk freely with you. So I'll put my arm around them when they are hurting, or give them a hug when they're excited. And I do this everytime I see them. And whenever the opportunity arises I talk to them about things that matter to them; and everytime I do this I am amazed at how easy it is to work something in about the goodness of our Lord. I have been doing this long enough to have watched some of these boys grow up into fine and godly young men, men who otherwise would not have had a chance, were it not for some old farmer in Eastern Colorado who happened to take an interest in them.
 
My approach with other people is only situationally different than this -- if it is a woman, I do not touch her. I have learned what to say to get to people's issues, and once I am there I know how to show them that I care. As soon as people know that I am genuine and, more importantly, that I genuinely care about them, their life is an open book. I have now gained permission to speak to their souls. I briefly shared the gospel that I share with them the other day, and so I won't go into it here, but I have found that, just like Zacchaeus, people cannot wait to come down out of that tree when they know they have been loved and accepted unconditionally. And, like I said, it is then that they will be honest about their sin, for O how they want deliverance!
 
 
 
> Bill wrote:
> > And neither do the masses need you blasting at them
> > that this or that is wrong -- they already know it, too.
>
> Oh, Bill, you are so wrong.  You really just do not understand.  You need to
> go on campus and start preaching your gospel exactly as you understand it.
> Really.  Just get out there and let God start using you.  You will find out
> that they do NOT already know that it is wrong.
 
BT: There is a difference, David, between not knowing that you are wrong, and not admitting that you know you are wrong. I have yet to meet the Christian who if honest will say that she did not know what she was doing was wrong; or that he had never thought of it as wrong until I pointed it out to him. When people are old enough to know they are sneaking, they are old enough to know it is wrong. They may not understand the dynamics of their guilt or the nuances of their action, but they know it is wrong. I do not expect to convince you of this, however, because you are coming from a position of having put people on the spot so many times and having watched them deny their depravity so often that you are now convinced you are right. But again, I think this is probably because you have already put them on the defensive with your approach. Nevertheless, David, I have grown weary of this discussion. I guess I have a sense of knowing when I am at an impasse. If you do not mind, I would be content to let it go with that.
 
Bill

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