BLAINE:  Kevin, did anyone ever tell you that you are an equal
opportunity opportunist?  (:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:19:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:BLAINE: I don't know about Einstein 
> believing in Jesus as the Messiah,
> but he spoke well of one Mormon writer, James E. Talmage, who wrote 
> a
> book much used in Mormondom, titled "JESUS THE CHRIST." Einstein was
> quoted as saying Mr. Talmage was, other than himself, the smartest 
> man he
> knew of. The book is available at any Deseret Book Store, and has 
> been
> in print continuously since at least September, 1915. This date 
> alone
> blows apart the contention by some liberal preachers that an 
> emphasis on
> Jesus among Mormons is of recent vintage.
> 
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:26:36 -0600 "ShieldsFamily"
> writes:
> > Just waxing poetic for G's sake. Does it seem a bit uncharitable 
> of 
> > you to
> > state that we "delight" in speaking of eternal damnation of 
> anyone? 
> > We
> > delight in souls being saved, and can only hope in the case of 
> > Einstein (w/o
> > much validation for doing so.) Izzy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:40 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John speaks of 'judging the destiny of others' as inappropriate. I 
> 
> > note
> > further that such as David, Izzie and Kevin seem to 'delight' in 
> > speaking of
> > it. (burn, burn, burn)
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> > To: [email protected] 
> > 
> > Sent: February 26, 2005 04:02
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 2/25/2005 7:17:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And Einstein burns, and Einstein burns
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh yeah, and King James was an Evangelical Christian. 
> > 
> > The Bible speaks of "judging" and gives instruction on two 
> > differing
> > levels. The first is that judgment we make of others. We are 
> > told to
> > judge those within the fellowship of the saints -- but there is a 
> > limit
> > to this judgment --- the actions of the indvidual. Not the destiny 
> 
> > of the
> > individual. Even when we "disfellowship" a disciple, we are told 
> > to
> > continue to entreat him as a brother. And then, there is the 
> > destiny
> > issue -- reserved for the judgment of God Himself. That is is 
> > His job.
> > The words used to speak of this judgment imply the IMPOSSIBILITY 
> of 
> > this act
> > [of judgment] on our part. It is not that we are not supposed to 
> > --
> > rather, it is that such is IMPOSSIBLE. 
> > 
> > What remains as an issue of judgment, then? Not simply the 
> > judgment of the
> > actions of others as mentioned above. There is further limitation. 
> 
> > For
> > when we commit to that judgment, we are ever mindful of our own 
> > failings
> > (Romans 2) . When the Lord (that would be Jesus) tells us that 
> > the
> > judgment we issue to others is incurred by ourselves -- the only 
> > lesson
> > implicit in this caution is that of brotherly love. If judgment at 
> 
> > times
> > is necessary; if judgment as to eternal destiny is not of our 
> > opinion at
> > all; if judgment of another opens the door to personal admission 
> > --
> > then, that which is given to us as a responsiblity (those who are 
> > spiritual
> > give help to those who are weak) must be done in the greatest of 
> > humility
> > and kindness because we hope to receive this very attitude from 
> God 
> > when
> > our judgment takes place. When we judge the destiny of others, 
> > we show
> > ourselves to be ignorant of the expressed will of God on this 
> point 
> > and in
> > as much danger as those whom we criticize. That IS the biblical 
> > message.
> > 
> > 
> > Pastor J
> > 
> > JD 
> > 
> 
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