Terah lived till he was 205 years old and he died
in Haran [Gen 11:32]
Abram was 75 years old when he left Haran [Gen
12:4]
Therefore he left while his father was still
alive.
jt: Caroline truth can not be based
upon assumption. The scriptures do not conflict, nor do they
contradict. If Abram left Haran after his father Terah died at 205yrs of
age, then Abram had to have been born when Terah was 130; this would make
Abram 75yrs old when he left Haran as per Genesis 12:4. Your scenario
doesn't even make good common sense. Why would Terah's remaining son and
grandson leave him alone in Haran for the final (60 by your figures) years of
his life? He would have travelled with them.
When Luke wrote that passage in Acts, I'm sure
his Jewish buddies, especially Paul who knew the OT inside out, must have
pointed out the "error" in Acts 7:4. Luke could
have just cut out the phrase "After the death of his father" but I'm guessing
God would not let him. I think he must have agonized over that but he had to
leave it. The people who
later picked Luke's gospel and Acts to be a part of the
bible also knew about the "error" but they
chose these two works anyway. They agreed Luke's writings were inspired. As a
matter of fact, Luke has a great reputation among secular historians as an
accurate and meticulous recorder of history, which is why I think it
mortified him that he was not allowed to change
that little itsy bitsy bit in Acts 7.
jt: Apparently your faith rests in
the works of men more than in the ability of the Creator of the Universe
to get it all together Caroline because the above is pure speculation with no basis in fact
- Reality is that. "ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God
and is good for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in
righteousness" (2 Tim 3:16). I think we've gotten it a little turned
around here. The scriptures are given to correct humankind rather
than vice versa.
There are several such little
hiccups scattered through the bible. None of them are crucial doctrinal stuff though they do cause the reader
to go whoa! didn't I just read somewhere
else....?!? Now why would
God do this? :-) Could it be that He foresaw us trying to replace a
relationship with Him with a leather bound, gilt-edged
god we can hold in our hands?
jt: Yeah right! Well Jesus
Himself seemed to think the "leather bound gilt-edged Word" of paramount
importance. He told the religious
leaders he dealt with that they
didn't understand what he was saying because they didn't know God or His
Word. I'd say the same goes for those struggling with
the "little hiccups" today.
God will not be mocked and He doesn't take it lightly when ppl
think they are smarter than Him. He has always been both willing and able
to conceal His Words from some and reveal them to others.
I've written answers to your questions in the
post below just under your questions. I intend to tackle the other question
you asked me which I "answered" by giving you those two passages.
I'll do that tonight when I have more time. Hope you're having a pleasant
evening, dear Judy. Love,
Caroline
Thanks, Judy
jt: Please tell me you are joking
Caroline, or does God's Word have no integrity whatsoever in your eyes?
Caroline:
God's Word (Jesus) has the love of all my
heart, mind and soul. I also love the bible. I read it and study it and like
to talk to other people about it.
jt: Would I be accurate in saying
that you do see God's Word and scripture as one and the same but that you
have conferred this title on Jesus in the flesh?
jt: Are you following three Gods
Caroline?
Caroline:
I'm a firm Trinitarian in that I believe in God
the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I understand there are
Unitarians (which I don't think anyone on TT is) and Oneness Pentecostals
who only believe in God the Father.
jt: The reason I asked the
question is that you referred to them in the plural.
jt: Are you saying that perceived
errors in scripture can be checked by someone who speaks to you
Caroline?
Caroline:
I believe we work out our faith in community
and with the Holy Spirit. The most wonderful thing about Christianity is
that our God is living and active and we can speak to Him.
jt: Is the "community thing" same
to you as "working out your own salvation with fear and trembling?" and by
the above are you saying that you "speak to Him" through
community?
