[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are comfortable thinking you can keep your sin and still be considered righteous I feel sorry for you.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I am comfortable thinking that YOU can keep your sin and still be considered righteous, Terry.

Woe to them that are at ease in Zion (Amos 6:1, Exodus 19:5); How so JD? you shouldn�t be comfortable with anything of the sort, that is if you are a genuine believer. Have you cut 1 John 3:7 out of your Bible? The above type of thinking is �stinkin� thinkin�

That's the issue, here. And this has nothing to do with the latest in theological renewal on my part.

Oh well! It is definitely not the �faith once delivered to the saints�

I have believed and understood Paul in Romans on this matter for many a year. It is Paul who says you are saved by faith apart from obedience to any law. That is Paul talking, not me. It is Paul who says we all continue to fall short of the glory of God. What in the world do you think that means?

I think it means that rather than come up with our own interpretation we should follow Paul as he followed Christ ie: the same Paul who wrote 1 Cor 9:21b,22 - �being not without the law to God but under the law to Christ� and we both know that Christ did not live and then die to negate God�s moral law

It is Paul who describes the continuing sin problem (Ro 7:25) and then tells his readers that God has solved that problem by taking away condemnation (8:1).

You need to throw that NIV in the trash JD because the above misconception could damn your soul. Look at Romans 8:2 and you will see that condemnation is only removed from those who walk after the spirit and who do not fulfill the lust of the flesh�

It was Peter, in Acts 15 who admitted that the keeping of the law was a burden that should not be passed on (Acts 15:10).

Peter did not advocate imposing Jewish Law upon new believers at Antioch who were Gentile and indwelt by the Holy Spirit anyway - he did not introduce a doctrine of antinomianism.

It is God -speak in the Galatian letter that tells of love, joy, peace, kindness and then establishes these things by saying, "against which there is no law."

When the believer walks in these nine gifts consistently that is. When we sin against love we break God�s moral law and the curse is right there to judge.

It was God's plan to move from law to Spirit (Jere 31:31-340, not mine.

It was not God�s plan to pass empty promises on to those who consistently walk in the flesh rather than in His fear.

It was Christ who asked us to "seek first [and foremost] the sovereign rule and authority of God [Matt 6:33] ........" Sovereign rule and authority is an inward thing, Terry.

Seeking first the Kof G and His righteousness and walking in both is how

we walk in the blessings rather than the curses and have all of our earthly needs met.

It is Paul who reveals that our righteousness is a consideration in the mind of God and in the place of faith. "fatih reckoned as righteousness." Do you have any real idea what that means?

It means that if we believe God�s Word and act on it the same way Abraham did that our faith will be reckoned as righteousness just as his

Faith was.

Your righteousness is as menstral rags before the Lord. That is the state of affairs in your life (and mine, if truth be told).

You may speak for yourself JD but if Terry is walking in all the light God

Has given him then his faith is reckoned as righteousness just like Abraham.

So God has no choice but to look elsewhere as He considers our plight. And He finds the answer in Christ who reconciled all in His flesh and at His death FOR THE PURPOSE OF holiness, blamelessness and being above reproach IN HIS SIGHT (Col 1:22,23).

Why do people imply that God has something wrong with his eyesight

or that he must play mind games because the reality is just too awful. Yes Christ made a way for us where there seemed to be no way; but remember 1 John 3:7 and 1 John 3:10. Don�t try to make it into something else.

It was Paul who taught us in this passage that the fact of reconciliation was accomplished in Christ, in his flesh, at His death and this reconciliation was for all on earth and in the heavens above ------------------ all were reconciled during the Incarnation Event. All !!!   Book, chapter and verse on that, Terry, my friend.

Along with many "intellectual repositioning" type theologians.  Ichabod, Ichabod, Ichabod. The whole world lieth in the evil one JD.  Noone comes to the Father who has not first been drawn by Him to Christ and the process is clear (see Eph 1:13)�Christ in whom ye also trusted after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession unto the praise of his glory�

You don't want to move on and and admit to the process of intellectual repositioning in the Lord (read " growth), that is up to you, but all that I have said is right there in the Book, in plain sight. JD

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