Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?

[Dave]

DAVEH:  You must define it differently than the dictionary I use...... necromancy  noun [U] the practice of claiming to communicate with the dead in order to discover what is going to happen in the future, or black magic (= magic used for bad purposes) ......How does the above definition relate to baptism for the dead? Kevin Deegan wrote: It is Necromancy & that is bizzare Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  Hmmmmmmm........Is that really your answer to my specific question, Kevin?  If so, I do not understand how your answer relates to Paul.   I would prefer to think you simply went off on a tangent in your explanation, rather than trying to dodge my question.  Would you be so kind as to explain how your answer relates to the way you believe Paul would or would not view baptism for the dead as a bizarre behavior? Kevin Deegan wrote: Where then is the EVIDENCE that the people of the BoM KNEW of or practised baptism, let alone PROXY Baptism? The Book of Mormon teaches baptism is a covenant for mortal life. Mosiah 18:13 “And when he had said these words, the  Spirit of the Lord was upon him, and he said, Helam, I baptize thee, having authority from Almighty God, as a testimony that ye have entered into a covenant to serve him until you are dead, as to the mortal body.” Alma 34:34,35, teaches NO Second chance " Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis [death], that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world. "For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked"   Baptism for the dead is another one of those doctrines the LDS picked up from the natural mind & the Roman Catholics doctrine of Extreme Unction & Purgatory. "It is appointed unto men ONCE to DIE and after this the JUDGEMENT" No second chance to pay them out No second chance to pray them out Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH: Kevin, do you think baptism for the dead struck Paul as bizarre? Kevin Deegan wrote: > CMON Blaine screw your head on right. > That is exactly what it is called Communication, "that the living > should hear from the dead" > Proxy baptism for dead folks, does not strike you as bizzarre? > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.