Dave,
I think the post you responded to is mine, not Kevin's. Here is Jude 3 in it's entirety from the NASB:
Jude 3: Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.
The NASB gives a clearer rendition of "hapax" (clarifying, not reinterpreting) since "hapax" is an "aorist passive", indicating that the action occurred once and will never occur again. I am not a greek scholar; this description comes from John MacArthur. Also, S. Zodhiates, in "The Complete Word Study Dictionary - New Testament", describes the use of "hapax" in Jude 3, along with other verses, to mean "once for all", that is, it can never occur again. He gives the example that Christ's sacrifice will never occur again.
Jude is essentially describing the closure in the delivery of the faith...that it was complete and over as delivered to the saints. And Jude does not have to have been the last book written in order for this his statement to be correct. He is only announcing that the faith was delivered once for all...not that the saints to whom it was entrusted could no longer write about that faith.
Going one verse futher, Jude describes the likes of Joseph Smith:
Jude 4: For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord."
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: TruthTalk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead? Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:13:48 -0700
DAVEH: You are losing me on this one, Kevin. Vs 3 says......
....y*e should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.*
.......in the KJV. What version are you using to get *once for all*?
Also....do you think there was no further revelation from God after Jude wrote his epistle?
BLAINE: It is ON-GOING REVELATION that Kevin does not believe in. His theme is, as always, that revelation ceased with the apostles' deaths. Can you or Kevin furnish me with any scripture that substantiates this false--VERY false--doctrine?
Blaine, check out Jude 3. The faith was apparently delivered "once for all".
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