Re: [TruthTalk] baptism

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:  Nothing will make for easier discussions, IF one of the parties does not want to have a meaningful exchange, Kevin.  I view TT as being a place where two or more people of contrasting opinions can explore why other's believe differently.  I perceive that some TTers (such as yourself) are here not to have a meaningful discussion unless it results in the other person adopting your beliefs.  Basically, you want to use TT as a forum to convert people to Christianity as you  understand it...is that correct?  Assuming so, you probably don't feel a need to find areas of common belief, but rather cut right to the chase and try to overwhelm your opponent with their error of thought/belief as you perceive it.  Have I analyzed it correctly, Kevin?     I harbor no illusions about changing your anti attitudes, Kevin.  But I am curious as to why you are as you are (and why you believe as you do), if that makes any sense.  It's just one of my hang-ups I suppose.   So, every now and then you do reveal a bit about yourself, for which I am appreciative.  But as I see it, you mostly put up a pretty thick wall hoping to wear your opponents down in their futile efforts to overcome that wall.  Then you try to attack their perceived soft spot, hoping for a quick victory.      That'll be $250 for your initial therapy session, please!   :-D Kevin Deegan wrote: Why does it make discussions easier?????   Do you mean it will disarm those rascal Anti's? Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  I think it makes discussions much easier if common points are first found, Kevin.  Kevin Deegan wrote: What is this Mormon preoccupation with finding all the things we have in common? Why would one want to find; lets say, for example, all the things they have in common with the devil?   So what then; after we find what we have in common? Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles Perry Locke wrote: DAVEH:  Ohhhhhhhh....what an interesting response, Perry!  I must say that I do find it rather curious that you would rather take a more vigorous new tack against my beliefs rather than discuss issues of theology common to both of us.   It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it is what we do NOT have in common. DAVEH:  So you have no interest in discussing theology in an effort to see what we might believe in common?  Maybe we have two different perspectives about TT, Perry.  I view it as a place where people of divergent opinions can share ideas and quiz one another about their beliefs without feeling threatened or inviting a hard sell approach to change other people.  I'm beginning to think you are here to do battle, so to speak.  To you, TT merely is a place to convert people to your way of thinking.  Am I reading you wrong on this?  If not, then for what reason did you come to TT, Perry? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.