Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Dispersions

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:   Sure....God does look like a man, Kevin.   If Jesus was the Son of man (Jn 3:13), then do you not think his Father in Heaven was a Holy Man?  And, if Jesus' physical body was in the form of a man, do you not think his pre-mortal spiritual body may have been in a similar form?    To answer your last question....yes, many things are created in a form before they become the actual entity.     If we were created in the image of God (Gen 1:26), and we will be like him when he appears (1Jn 3:2), then does it not follow that God looks like a man?     As for him being seen.....is there any question about it?   The passages that suggest one cannot see God are obviously referring to those who are carnal, since there are Biblical characters (such as Moses & Stephen) who did see God.  Furthermore, Gen 32:30 pretty much illustrates that holy men can see God, and live.  Was it not Jesus who said....... Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.   (Mt 5:8) ...........Do you believe you can see God, Kevin?  If not, perhaps you are not pure enough in heart. Kevin Deegan wrote: So what would he look like? a man? Can he be seen?   How can you be in the form of a man before you become a man? Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  No Kevin, I am not joking.  I believe the Bible teaches that Jesus was the God of the OT before his birth (Jn 1:1-14)....I assume you agree.  >From Jn 4:24, you do believe God of the OT was a spirit....is that correct, Kevin?  Yet that spirit had the form of a body similar to ours, as is evidenced by Gen 1:26-27 which explains that we were created in his image.  Furthermore, Paul suggests Jesus is the express image of his Father. (Heb 1:3)     Moses even describes some of God's body parts in Ex 33:20-23, and whose similitude he beheld as mentioned in Num 12:18.  Do you accept the literalness of these descriptions, Kevin?  If so, does what I said above make sense now?     Kevin Deegan wrote: How could he be God in the "form of a man" before he became a man? Your joking with me, that make NO sense. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  God, in the form of a man consisting of a spirit being.  Are we in agreement on that, Kevin? Kevin Deegan wrote: What was he before he "became a man"? Hos 11:9 I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee DAVEH:  I agree, Kevin.  Jesus was not a man before he was born.   But, I believe he was literally the Son of Man.  When did that happen?.....after his birth.   Not only was he the Son of Man, but he himself became a man, and was subsequently resurrected after his death when his spirit body was united with a physical body of flesh and bones to become an exalted man.  With what part of this do you disagree, Kevin? Kevin Deegan wrote: If I incorrectly told you items about my wife Hair color, likes dislikes, how we met, where we married, where she was born (it was not Jerusalem : ) She would not be pleased. Her desire is that I know her.   God wants you to know him, He is a jealous God He wants your love and affection. If your description of Him is off, you are worshipping a god of your own making   Hos 11:9 I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.